Galerina ID assistance needed

[RobSutton]

A lack of other subjects to photograph and ID has led me to the dark side of fungal ID - small brackets (more of this later) and little brown jobs.

This was growing in moss on the trunk of a hawthorn (Crataegus monogyna). The cap was strongly hygrophanous - drying in the centre to a pale buff colour, with a diameter of 1cm - 1.5cm (there were several in the same section of trunk but not cespitose).


Spores


Gill edge showing (I think) capitate cheliocystidia


Clamps present


I've tried going through Fungi of Switzerland but am struggling to find anything matching this. Some species fit in respect to some characters but not to others. I think there are more species than are shown in FoS but don't have the relevant literature.

Am I on the right lines in Galerina is the first question I guess or is there something else it could be? Any other suggestions even if it's along the lines of it could be one of a number of possible species would be welcome.

[mollisia]

Hallo Rob,

you are in the wrong genus and family, but that happens often with these small brown species. You don't have a Galerina here, but Tubaria furfuracea/hiemalis. When comparing it from that point of view, you will find a good concordance with literature (in FoS they are in vol. 4).

best regards,
Andreas

[RobSutton]

Originally Posted by mollisia

Hallo Rob,

you are in the wrong genus and family, but that happens often with these small brown species. You don't have a Galerina here, but Tubaria furfuracea/hiemalis. When comparing it from that point of view, you will find a good concordance with literature (in FoS they are in vol. 4).

best regards,
Andreas

Hi Andreas

That probably explains why I was struggling. For every step I take forward with these things there seem to be two more steps taking me backwards.

Many thanks (again) for your help.

[Chris Yeates]

hi Rob

based on the photographs, looking at those cheilocystidia I think I would have called this Tubaria hiemalis, but general opinion seems to be that this taxon is not distinct from T. furfuracea

best wishes

Chris

[SheffieldLass]

Originally Posted by RobSutton

For every step I take forward with these things there seem to be two more steps taking me backwards.

Many thanks (again) for your help.

Hi Rob

I know the feeling there .... I've got 3 Galerinas that I haven't been able to id to my satisfaction in spite of two comprehensive keys for them ... One I've looked at quite hard to decide if it is in fact a Tubaria, but it isn't T furfuracea that's for sure, spores are too big.

Melanie

[RobSutton]

Originally Posted by Chris Yeates

hi Rob

based on the photographs, looking at those cheilocystidia I think I would have called this Tubaria hiemalis, but general opinion seems to be that this taxon is not distinct from T. furfuracea

best wishes

Chris

Thanks Chris - I'll label it appropriately. Another one for my Malham Tarn list! Must admit I was thrown a bit by it growing well up on a tree trunk (albeit a short dead section) rather than at ground level where reading the texts suggested it should be.

Originally Posted by SheffieldLass

Hi Rob

I know the feeling there .... I've got 3 Galerinas that I haven't been able to id to my satisfaction in spite of two comprehensive keys for them ... One I've looked at quite hard to decide if it is in fact a Tubaria, but it isn't T furfuracea that's for sure, spores are too big.

Melanie

Hi Melanie - I get the feeling that you need to see lots of these over a relatively short time period to get familiar with the subtle variations between them. I find trying to do a one-off particularly difficult. Persistence the order of the day I think - plus the willing help of the people here of course.