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27-01-2009, 05:18 PM
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| | | Nectria cinnabarina? Am I safe in thinking that this is Nectria cinnabarina?
Found today. Average size was about 1 - 2mm
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27-01-2009, 06:39 PM
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| | | Re: Nectria cinnabarina? yes indeed, Mike
this is the imperfect (anamorphic) Tubercularia state of Nectria cinnabarina
cheers
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27-01-2009, 06:56 PM
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| | | Re: Nectria cinnabarina? Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Yeates yes indeed, Mike this is the imperfect (anamorphic) Tubercularia state of Nectria cinnabarina cheers Chris | Thanks Chris.
Forgive my ignorance, but does "Tubercularia state" basically mean the same as "tuberculate" i.e. the warty nodules ? - I haven't been able to find any meaningful definition in answers provided by googling for it.
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27-01-2009, 07:32 PM
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| | | Re: Nectria cinnabarina? I thought they went this colour when they had released the spores. | 
27-01-2009, 07:34 PM
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| | | Re: Nectria cinnabarina? Quote:
Originally Posted by KeenTeen17 I thought they went this colour when they had released the spores.  | yeah thats what I thought too KT
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27-01-2009, 08:34 PM
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| | | Re: Nectria cinnabarina? Hallo,
Tubercularia is a genus name for a genus of imperfect fungi.
Many (or most or even all) imperfect fungi are anamorphic states of perfect fungi known under another name. The reason is, that in former days this relationship between an anamorphic state (asexual state, imperfect state) and the teleomorphic state (sexual state, perfect state) was not know.
Must of us know in the meantime, that Dacrymyces stillatus has a anamorph, quite similar in shape and colour, and so do many fungi. Microscopically seen the perfect states have basidia or asci and produce spores, wereas the imperfect states has conidiophors and produces conidia.
To produce asexual conidia is a fast way of spreading reproductive cells into the air, but it is quite inefficient, Conidia don't "work" too well and above all there is no gen mixture. Many fungi seem to have the habit to first make an anamorph to have a fast way to reproduce itself, and when the situation is favourable, then a teleomorph state is produced afterwards. May be that teleomorph state need more energy and more time. So you often can see both states of a fungus on the same location, but the anamorph will always be the first which has been there.
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27-01-2009, 08:50 PM
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| | | Re: Nectria cinnabarina? a classic is your candle snuff . . . Xylaria hypoxylon
the white stuff on the tips consists of conidia (imperfect 'spores') later if you examine the bases of the black stems you will find the embedded flask-shaped 'perithecia' of the perfect (sexual state); in this instance conidia and true spores are produced on the same fruit-body . . .
Chris
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27-01-2009, 08:52 PM
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| | | Re: Nectria cinnabarina? Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Yeates a classic is your candle snuff . . . Xylaria hypoxylon
the white stuff on the tips consists of conidia (imperfect 'spores') later if you examine the bases of the black stems you will find the embedded flask-shaped 'perithecia' of the perfect (sexual state); in this instance conidia and true spores are produced on the same fruit-body . . .
Chris | thanks Chris. good info (feeling cool I see   )
thanks Andreas for the more scientific detail | 
27-01-2009, 08:55 PM
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| | | Re: Nectria cinnabarina? This one is a bit of both stages - hopefully I've got this right! 
Be gentle if not! 
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27-01-2009, 08:55 PM
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| | | Re: Nectria cinnabarina? Thanks again Chris & Andreas - your explanations have taught me a little bit more. (But I will probably still be asking such questions for years to come.  ).
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