Orange elf cups !!!

[kiff]

I was over in Ebor Gorge Somerset today lots of scarlet elf cups as all ways for this time of year when I come a cross a orange elf cup

never seen an orange on before they have all ways been scarlet

[KeenTeen17]

I think theyre also called orange peel fungus. I haven't seen the scarlet or the orange

[kiff]

Originally Posted by KeenTeen17

I think theyre also called orange peel fungus. I haven't seen the scarlet or the orange

no it's not orange peel for 1, it's the wrong habitat and 2, it's the wrong time of year

[KeenTeen17]

oh right. its even better that you found the orange one then

[leifus]

Originally Posted by KeenTeen17

I think theyre also called orange peel fungus. I haven't seen the scarlet or the orange

i think thats a different species?

[flaxton]

Originally Posted by kiff

no it's not orange peel for 1, it's the wrong habitat and 2, it's the wrong time of year

Does that mean that the "Orange Peel Fungus" I found on bare soil on a lawn a couple of weeks ago might not have been OPF

Mal

[kiff]

Originally Posted by flaxton

Does that mean that the "Orange Peel Fungus" I found on bare soil on a lawn a couple of weeks ago might not have been OPF

Mal

from what i have read about the orange peel fungus suggests it mainly grows in late summer and autumn on bare soil, lawns, and even road sides so the habitat is right for your find and with the way the weather has been they probably think it's autumn again,

Ebor Gorge this time of year it is extremely damp the moss grows six inches thick on the ground in places and even completely covers the trees the only orange peel I have ever seen at Ebor Gorge is what someone has thrown on the ground, the orange elf cup I found was on a moss coved branch in a swampy area with lots of scarlet ones I did try to take the photo on location but me the camera and tripod were sinking so I picked it and placed it next to one on dryer ground for the photo so as to show the colour difference

[flaxton]

Never having found (identified) Scarlet Elf Cap I don't have a lot to go on.

Mal

[NickCantle]

Well, although you're right about the time of year for Aleuria aurantia, you must remember that mushrooms don't do everything by the book. Things can grow abnormally and not even vaguely resemble the species they are. Like this one, species also grow out of season- it's not too common, but it happens!

Now about this photograph shown by yourself;



I'm sure that this shows both Aleuria aurantia and Sarcoscypha austriaca. To contradict my point on variation, the colour difference between the two is too great to be the same species. Of course there is a minute possibility that both it could be S. austriaca, but I favour the chances of there being two species.

The orange of the lower specimen matches the exact colour that I would expect of Aleuria aurantia.

Hope that helps,

Nick

[kiff]

Originally Posted by NickCantle

Well, although you're right about the time of year for Aleuria aurantia, you must remember that mushrooms don't do everything by the book. Things can grow abnormally and not even vaguely resemble the species they are. Like this one, species also grow out of season- it's not too common, but it happens!

Now about this photograph shown by yourself;



I'm sure that this shows both Aleuria aurantia and Sarcoscypha austriaca. To contradict my point on variation, the colour difference between the two is too great to be the same species. Of course there is a minute possibility that both it could be S. austriaca, but I favour the chances of there being two species.

The orange of the lower specimen matches the exact colour that I would expect of Aleuria aurantia.

Hope that helps,

Nick

the habitat seems total wrong for the orange peel plus if you look on the side view you can see it has the typical stalk for sarcoscypha, but then i have not seen the base of Aleuria aurantia or found and descent photos to compare the difference,
I have seen Aleuria in different places but never on in Ebor, I think this is just a mutant one off out of the thousands of sarcoscypha that are around Ebor at the moment it anyone is in Somerset over the next few weeks pop in to Ebor gorge you wont be disappointed with natures winter show

EDIT

"Fruiting Body: Cup-shaped, often becoming flattened or irregularly shaped as a result of the clustered growth habit; reaching widths of 10 cm, but often smaller; bright orange and smooth above; undersurface usually whitish-fuzzy, at least when young, but often orange and more or less smooth; without a stem. Odor none. Flesh orangish; brittle."
from mushroomexpert.com

so as aleuria does not have a stem this make me think even more that it is a orange scarlet elf cup ;O)