two to ID please

[kiff]

back with some more I'm getting stuck with found them in Copley woods Somerset today 24/12/09

think this maybe a mycena i was thinking may be rorida


this was about two feet away thought it was a flammulina at first but it's not as soon as I see the stem I could see that it was some thing diffrent

[mollisia]

Hallo,

the first one is a Mycena I think, but not rorida. But I don't know which one.

For the second I have an idea, but without being sure of it: Pholiota/Hemipholiota oedipus. On first look I thought of a Galerina from the marginata group, but the gills and especially the gill edge doesn't fit for that one.

best regards,
Andreas

[kiff]

Originally Posted by mollisia

Hallo,

the first one is a Mycena I think, but not rorida. But I don't know which one.

For the second I have an idea, but without being sure of it: Pholiota/Hemipholiota oedipus. On first look I thought of a Galerina from the marginata group, but the gills and especially the gill edge doesn't fit for that one.

best regards,
Andreas

thanks for the reply ,
Galerina did also cross my mind but it's the wrong time of year, did also look at some of the Pholiota, reading up on the Hemiphoiota oedipus which does seem to fit very well, with the time of year, habitat and the images I have found on the web do look the same, so for now I put this down as a possible Hempiphoiota
I should be back where I found it next weekend, so I see if I can find some more and bring one back for a spore print

[flaxton]

Kiff
I think the first one is most likely to be Mycena hiemalis. Described as translucent cap sometimes with a small umbo. Stipe somewhat bent translucent white whole length covered with fine white powder.

Mal

[Andy Overall]

Originally Posted by kiff

back with some more I'm getting stuck with found them in Copley woods Somerset today 24/12/09

think this maybe a mycena i was thinking may be rorida


this was about two feet away thought it was a flammulina at first but it's not as soon as I see the stem I could see that it was some thing diffrent

Hi Kiff,

The British Checklist has Hemipholiota oedipus in as, Phaeogalera dissimulans. Very good call Andreas, I would agree on this. As for the Mycena, I think most likely, Hemimycena.

Andy

[flaxton]

Originally Posted by Andy Overall

As for the Mycena, I think most likely, Hemimycena.

Andy

Andy
Without microscopic evidence we have no hope of being sure but this certainly looks like a few of the M. hiemalis I have found and positively id'd.


Mal

[Andy Overall]

Originally Posted by flaxton

Andy
Without microscopic evidence we have no hope of being sure but this certainly looks like a few of the M. hiemalis I have found and positively id'd.


Mal

Hi Mal,

I always associated M. hielmalis with having more brown in the pilieus, especially in the centre. Have you thought about Mycena alba


Andy

[mollisia]

Originally Posted by Andy Overall

The British Checklist has Hemipholiota oedipus in as, Phaeogalera dissimulans.

Hallo,

yes that is the new name for it, which I have not into me up to now. But one day it will be settled, I only hope that then it will still be the actual .....

I know that species a little duller in colour, more like sepia or greyish-brown. Therefor I was not too sure about the determination. But the gills, stipe and the greasy-looking cap surface agree very well with that species.

It usually grows on old leaves of Populus (poplar) which lay wet and get rotten and black.

best regards,
Andreas

[kiff]

Originally Posted by mollisia

Hallo,

yes that is the new name for it, which I have not into me up to now. But one day it will be settled, I only hope that then it will still be the actual .....

I know that species a little duller in colour, more like sepia or greyish-brown. Therefor I was not too sure about the determination. But the gills, stipe and the greasy-looking cap surface agree very well with that species.

It usually grows on old leaves of Populus (poplar) which lay wet and get rotten and black.

best regards,
Andreas

no poplars around, it was attached to a Ash leaf which was laying around getting rotten and black looking at the British mycological society records it seem to of been recorded a few times growing close to ash or on ash

[mollisia]

Hallo,

in sw-germany poplar is very clear the main substrate:
Alnus incana 1x, Fagus silvatica 1x, Fraxinus excelsior 2x, Populus x euroamericana 12x, Populus spec. 6x, Sorbus aria 1x.
18 collections on poplar leaves against 5 collections on 4 different other substrates.

But the range of substrate seems quite big, in literature there is also mentioned Acer, Salix and Tilia.

best regards,
Andreas