small bracket type fungi for id

[kiltoncomp]

growing on a 4" piece of birch twig, the largest one is 20mm diam

under side is a felty texture, creamy buff in colour,

[KeenTeen17]

looks similar to one posted recently. I think it was stereum sp. can't remember which one though

[leifus]

Originally Posted by KeenTeen17

looks similar to one posted recently. I think it was stereum sp. can't remember which one though

well its not stereum hirsutum if that helps lol

[kiltoncomp]

Originally Posted by KeenTeen17

looks similar to one posted recently. I think it was stereum sp. can't remember which one though

Hi KT, ive not found anything to match it yet, but i did find some more of them today, about two miles from where i found the first ones , these are even smaller at 10mm across,

[KeenTeen17]

this bracket appears similar to one you posted on the pickup sticks thread
http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/fo...65-post94.html

the one on that thread was an old stereum hirsutum because of the small hairs on the edge of the bracket. At least I hope I am right,

I think the one on this thread is different though. A scan through Philips has shown ascocoryne cyclichnium or another possibility is hymenochaete rubiginosa which also grows on dead tree limbs.

you said the underside was soft and velvety so Ascocoryne is likely but the fungus appears to be solid on the photo.

[kiltoncomp]

Originally Posted by KeenTeen17

this bracket appears similar to one you posted on the pickup sticks thread
http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/fo...65-post94.html

the one on that thread was an old stereum hirsutum because of the small hairs on the edge of the bracket. At least I hope I am right,

I think the one on this thread is different though. A scan through Philips has shown ascocoryne cyclichnium or another possibility is hymenochaete rubiginosa which also grows on dead tree limbs.

you said the underside was soft and velvety so Ascocoryne is likely but the fungus appears to be solid on the photo.

thanks KT,the link does not appear to work for me,
of the other two you mention, Ascocoryne , according to phillips has a short central stem where this one is absolutely flat to the twig,the Hymenochaete is similar but i dont think it is quite the same ,
looks like being another unsolved one, unless some one knows any different,

(this one appears to be hairless,so S.hirsutum seems unlikely?)

[mollisia]

Hallo,

Stereum hirsutum is also unlikely because of the substrate. Hirsutum usually never occures on such tiny twigs, but on more massive wood or at least thicker branches. There is Stereum species, which almost always occure on such samll twigs: Stereum rameale which is today could somehow else ( I don't remeber how, it has to do with the colour, as e.g. ochroflavum or something like that). It could well be that species.

best regards,
Andreas

[kiltoncomp]

Originally Posted by mollisia

Hallo,

Stereum hirsutum is also unlikely because of the substrate. Hirsutum usually never occures on such tiny twigs, but on more massive wood or at least thicker branches. There is Stereum species, which almost always occure on such samll twigs: Stereum rameale which is today could somehow else ( I don't remeber how, it has to do with the colour, as e.g. ochroflavum or something like that). It could well be that species.

best regards,
Andreas

Hi Andreas, it looks as though you got that spot on, on your suggested id i searched through the net for some time and not getting anything definite, i did a search for S.rameale on wab's Gallery, and there is an almost identical one there! (posted by nettle runner- nice one!)
many thanks,

[mollisia]

Hi,

just looked in the Index Fundorum: The name I meant above is Stereum ochraceoflavum, so I was quite near
Index fungorum has the name rameale as name in current use (which is a mistake I suppose!) and cites ochraceoflavum ss. Jülich as synonym. So the true Stereum ochraceoflavum seems to be something else, but I don't know what and whether it is european or not.
Both rameale and ochraceoflavum were described by von Schweinitz, Thelephora rameale in 1830, Thelephora ochraceoflavum in 1831. So the name rameale would have priority one could think, but this is not the case in Stereum, as the combination into this genus by Burt in 1920 is not valid because of Stereum rameale (Berk.) Massee 1890. This later species is nowadays known as Septobasidium rameale. Because of this nomenclatoral problems, in Nordic Macromycetes the name Stereum complicatum (Fries) Fries was intruduced for our species, but obviousely this is not accepted in Britain. I don't know why, may be they think that the interpretation of this old frisian species is not correct. But when the British think like this, they have to search another (valid) name for this species or describe it as new.
So may be we can add another name to the list of this species in near future

You find pictures of it in Fungi of Switzerland (vol. 2: 201).

best regards,
Andreas