Lepiota id please

Adam Cheeseman · #1 (**permalink**) 04-12-2008, 05:19 PM

Hi All,

Found this tucked away around the back of our shed at work today. I'm guessing it's one of the Lepiota.

Cap - 3cm across, 2cm deep.

Stipe - 40mm x 6mm darker at base, fibrous, hollow. Slightly swollen at base

Gills - free whitish

Smell pleasant, quite sweet (but I have got a cold at the moment)

Growing on soil under decid. trees.

Cheers,

Adam

leifus · #2 (**permalink**) 04-12-2008, 08:00 PM

A suggestion of....

Lepiota ochraceofulva?

Adam Cheeseman · #3 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 01:08 PM

Thanks Leifus. Just to confirm it had a white spore print.
What confusion species are there?

Cheers,

Adam

leifus · #4 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 04:22 PM

im not sure about confusion species but the odds are they'll be plenty of them!

I thinkit has a white spore print but someone will have to back me up/correct me

Lancashire Lad · #5 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by leifus

A suggestion of....

Lepiota ochraceofulva?

This thread seems to be passing under the radar, but I think you have it correctly with Lepiota ochraceofulva. Signs of membranous ring on pic 3, free gills, slightly swollen base of stipe, etc. etc. (I originally thought it might be Inocybe splendens, but it doesn't have the adnexed gills which that one would have - EDIT - and the ring remnant also knocks that out straight away).

But then again, as a beginner, I am probably seeing what I want to see to make it fit the photo.

Surprised no one else seems to be verifying or contradicting.

Regards
Mike.

flaxton · #6 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 10:50 PM

Mike
When the suggestion is not mentioned in Phillips or Courtecuisse or Fungi of Switzerland you are not going to get too many people coming forward to agree or disagree. It is mentioned in Flora Neerlandica but when the first question in the Key is are the spores spurred and then goes on to ask about the microscopic elements of the pileus covering it isn't easy to confirm you find from a photo.
Having said that it does fit the macroscopic features quite well so it could be.

Mal

NickCantle · #7 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 10:56 PM

I've never heard of it, that's why I've not commented on it!

I did look it up on the web, but no real information was evident.

kiltoncomp · #8 (**permalink**) 06-12-2008, 08:56 AM

anybody have any thoughts on this just being a late Macrolepiota rachodes(or whatever they are named today)
just a thought,as there seems to be a lot of stuff appearing out of their usual season??

Brian.

flaxton · #9 (**permalink**) 06-12-2008, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiltoncomp

anybody have any thoughts on this just being a late Macrolepiota rachodes(or whatever they are named today)
just a thought,as there seems to be a lot of stuff appearing out of their usual season??

Brian.

Brian
Even though we don't have enough microscopic information for a real identification and do we know if it stains on cutting I think the very flimsy annulus makes rachodes unlikely.

Mal

kiltoncomp · #10 (**permalink**) 06-12-2008, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flaxton

Brian
Even though we don't have enough microscopic information for a real identification and do we know if it stains on cutting I think the very flimsy annulus makes rachodes unlikely.

Mal

point taken, its just that i had two large groups of rachodes appear in the garden(both had two flushes) and some of the smaller specimens were very much like this one, the larger ones in the group did have much more substantial rings,the smaller ones stayed just that,small,

as you say, without further information its all conjecture,(especially on my part

)

Brian.