fungi for id

[kiltoncomp]

found at edge of footpath,under pine trees,
first thoughts were a lepiota of some sort, but this one has no ring to the stem and has pink gills, whereas most of the lepiota have rings and whitish gills?
second thought was Armillaria sp, but these were not caespitose like most Armillaria sp??



any suggestions please,

[KeenTeen17]

they could be flat capped shaggy pholiotas

[kiltoncomp]

Originally Posted by KeenTeen17

they could be flat capped shaggy pholiotas

Hi KT, Thats a good suggestion!,there are some similarites ,and although Pholiota is usually found with broad leaf trees, Roger Phillips book says they are occaisionaly found with pines, and the gill colours seem a better match for pholiota, so unless someone can come up with anything else, i think its "Pholiota sp - probably"
thanks for that,
Brian.

[NickCantle]

Did any of them have rings Brian? If so, look at the bulbous lower end of the stipe. Pholiota is a smashing call, but I'd be tempted to throw Armillaria into the mix The gills look like they're decurrent?

[kiltoncomp]

Originally Posted by NickCantle

Did any of them have rings Brian? If so, look at the bulbous lower end of the stipe. Pholiota is a smashing call, but I'd be tempted to throw Armillaria into the mix The gills look like they're decurrent?

Hi Nick,
our KT is fast becoming a proper little fungi boffin!!
there were no signs of rings to any of the group,perhaps a hint of a swelling where the ring would normally be, i would say the gills are adnate rather than being decurrent,
the fact that the group was not caespitose at all does not seem to lean to either Armillaria or pholiota, but i suppose its not impossible?

i tried to get a spore print, but only managed a very very faint brown smudge in one place,so not much help there, other than that Armillaria spore is creamy colour, and Pholiota spore is brown, which would seem to point in pholiotas favour?

[NickCantle]

Re-try for a spore print if possible Brian? Definitely points towards Pholiota if correct though!

[kiltoncomp]

Originally Posted by NickCantle

Re-try for a spore print if possible Brian? Definitely points towards Pholiota if correct though!

ive wet the cap and got it under a glass about an hour or so ago, just hope there is enough left in there to give a print,
the specimen was quite dry when collected, so its possible that they are older washed out ones, which would explain the pale cap colour?

[kiltoncomp]

Originally Posted by NickCantle

Re-try for a spore print if possible Brian? Definitely points towards Pholiota if correct though!

suprisingly, it produced a spore print(well, half a print) which is definitely brown, which would seem to rule out Armillaria sp,

[KeenTeen17]

I am learning thanks to people like Nick & Mal & FJ.

[kiltoncomp]

Originally Posted by KeenTeen17

I am learning thanks to people like Nick & Mal & FJ.

Hi KT, you certainly are! i think we all learn from each other on this forum,
i've already learnt more than i thought i would about fungi in general,
still have a few problems, even wth the "easy" ones, but i'm getting there

Brian