id for Inocybe sp ??

[kiltoncomp]

couple of specimens that i think maybe Inocybe sp,
first one was growing in grass and was about 40/50mm across the cap with a 75mm stem


the second one was growing under pines and was about 40/50mm across the cap with a 75mm stem



any help with the id of these very welcome

Brian

[Chris Yeates]

hi KC

could be, although if the gills were as pinkish as they appear, I wouldn't rule out Entoloma

regards

Chris

[kiltoncomp]

Originally Posted by Chris Yeates

hi KC

could be, although if the gills were as pinkish as they appear, I wouldn't rule out Entoloma

regards

Chris

the Entoloma was my first thought for the pink gilled one (the gill colour is a close match to the real colour) but i cant find a good match for one ,most seem to be woodland species i think? and these were well in the open, a good distance from any trees, although Entomola conferendum could be a possibility??
the white one, possibly Inocybe geophylla? it was the nearest thing i could find, probably miles away with that though

Brian.

[NickCantle]

I don't suppose the second specimen was actually a darker grey than is shown? It's got the right characteristics for Tricholoma terreum, plus it's in the correct habitat - All depends if the highlights are overblown in the image or not

[Chris Yeates]

Originally Posted by kiltoncomp

the Entoloma was my first thought for the pink gilled one (the gill colour is a close match to the real colour) but i cant find a good match for one ,most seem to be woodland species i think? and these were well in the open

Brian.

hi

no they are by no means restricted to woodlands, there are a lot of grassland Entolomas; while some seem restricted to certain plants (some spring species always appear near shrubs in the rose family) I don't think that it has been proved that any actually form tight associations (mycorrhizas) with plants

the frustrating thing for you is that if you are correct with E. conferendum, one look at the spores and you can tell - if you can prevail on anyone with a microscope to check them; it's a large and difficult genus but the spores of that one are very distinctive, a good number of them being a virtually unique 'cross' shape (see photo)

keep at it Brian!

best wishes

Chris

[kiltoncomp]

Originally Posted by NickCantle

I don't suppose the second specimen was actually a darker grey than is shown? It's got the right characteristics for Tricholoma terreum, plus it's in the correct habitat - All depends if the highlights are overblown in the image or not

Hi Nick,
the colour is about right,if any thing they looked a little whiter in real life! been back to clumber this afternoon to see if i could find these two again,but there was no signs of either of them,(must remember to keep a sample in future) did keep falling over armillarea clumps every where i went!
and found another patch of Hygrophorus hypothejus

thanks, Brian

[NickCantle]

Okay Brian, just trying to eliminate things as I go!

[kiltoncomp]

Hi Chris,
its another case of not keeping a sample of the fungi , been back for another look this afternoon, but no sign of either of them

[quote=Chris Yeates;365738]hi

no they are by no means restricted to woodlands, there are a lot of grassland Entolomas; while some seem restricted to certain plants (some spring species always appear near shrubs in the rose family) I don't think that it has been proved that any actually form tight associations (mycorrhizas) with plants

the frustrating thing for you is that if you are correct with E. conferendum, one look at the spores and you can tell - if you can prevail on anyone with a microscope to check them; it's a large and difficult genus but the spores of that one are very distinctive, a good number of them being a virtually unique 'cross' shape (see photo)

keep at it Brian!

best wishes

Chris

[kiltoncomp]

Originally Posted by NickCantle

Okay Brian, just trying to eliminate things as I go!

no problem Nick, anything that helps to eliminate or confirm an id is a step in the right direction ,
interesting theory about it being a tricholma sp though,i had not looked at that genus as a possibility, i did look at some white Hygrophorus sp before i realised they had slimy caps, while this one was nice and dry,

Brian