pinewood fungi identification

kiltoncomp · #1 (**permalink**) 13-10-2008, 03:15 PM

i found these today growing under pine trees in large trooping semicircles,in the hundreds!
the size ranged from 2 to 5 inch across the cap and were about 2 to 3 inch tall,
they have no noticable smell, the cap is dry with a suede like texture and the stem has a slightly scaly appearance,i thought they might be a lactarius sp, but there was no evidence of milk(i tried several specimens)

i have not been able get a spore print from the two samples i took,
any suggestions ??

thanks, Brian

sarah64 · #2 (**permalink**) 13-10-2008, 06:51 PM

Not Lactarius I dont think. Have you tried putting a drop of water on and cover with cling film to get a spore print?

kiltoncomp · #3 (**permalink**) 13-10-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah64

Not Lactarius I dont think. Have you tried putting a drop of water on and cover with cling film to get a spore print?

Hi Sarah,
i've had them under some plastic pots for the last 2/3 hours and just begining to get a faint white spore deposit

i've been doing a bit more searching and have come up with another possibility "tricholoma imbricatum" , its the nearest thing i can find , dont know if i'm close or not though,
Brian.

fairplay · #4 (**permalink**) 13-10-2008, 07:59 PM

It is possible to mistake these for Clitocybe nebularis, the Clouded Agaric, but the way the gills are attached say another genus, possibly Melanoleuca polioleuca, but the third photo showing the round unexpanded cap, brings this into doubt.

Neil.

Edit. Brian, you could well be right as these do look more Tricholoma than Melanoleuca.

sarah64 · #5 (**permalink**) 13-10-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kiltoncomp

Hi Sarah,

i've been doing a bit more searching and have come up with another possibility "tricholoma imbricatum" , its the nearest thing i can find , dont know if i'm close or not though,
Brian.

Na, I've looked at Rogers website and I don't think its that either Brian. Looks like you've got us foxed!

kiltoncomp · #6 (**permalink**) 13-10-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fairplay

It is possible to mistake these for Clitocybe nebularis, the Clouded Agaric, but the way the gills are attached say another genus, possibly Melanoleuca polioleuca, but the third photo showing the round unexpanded cap, brings this into doubt.

Neil.

Hi Neil,
i have found plenty of c.nebularis over the last few weeks but these are not like them at all,

now i've finally managed to get a partial spore print (white) i am leaning towards it being a tricholoma sp, possibly t. imbricatum,???

in jordans book the description is pretty close , but as usual i could be totally wrong

Brian

kiltoncomp · #7 (**permalink**) 13-10-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah64

Na, I've looked at Rogers website and I don't think its that either Brian. Looks like you've got us foxed!

i must admit that the one shown in rogers book looks nothing like my example , but the ones in jordans are a much closer match to it

Brian

kiltoncomp · #8 (**permalink**) 13-10-2008, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fairplay

It is possible to mistake these for Clitocybe nebularis, the Clouded Agaric, but the way the gills are attached say another genus, possibly Melanoleuca polioleuca, but the third photo showing the round unexpanded cap, brings this into doubt.

Neil.

Edit. Brian, you could well be right as these do look more Tricholoma than Melanoleuca.

just done a search of the Gallery and came up with this

which looks identical to my find,

Brian .

sarah64 · #9 (**permalink**) 13-10-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kiltoncomp

just done a search of the Gallery and came up with this

which looks identical to my find,

Brian .

Hey hey well done Brian. Looks like you could be right after all. I've pulled out my books and was having a look and in M. Jordan and R. Phillips, especially Phillips the pics match.

kiltoncomp · #10 (**permalink**) 14-10-2008, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah64

Hey hey well done Brian. Looks like you could be right after all. I've pulled out my books and was having a look and in M. Jordan and R. Phillips, especially Phillips the pics match.

Hi Sarah,
i becoming more convinced that they are t.imbricatum, although it would be better if one of the experts could confirm that,

looking at both jordan and phillips books again , i noticed that jordans say inedible ,while phillips says edible ,but not recomended!
just shows not to take anything for granted with fungi being edible, to quote the old saying " if in doubt throw it out" .

Brian .