Unknown Agaricus

[flaxton]

Hi
I came across this small (5cm cap) in mixed woodland. No strong smells no colour change on cutting



Thanks
Mal
Ps while I was investigating I noticed Xanthadermus is one the Red Data List has anyone any idea why when it is so common

[NickCantle]

Caps look quite 'Augustus' like, but the long stipe and the small caps would suggest otherwise. Interesting

[fairplay]

Hi Mal,

Been really busy with Ramblers committee meetings etc. and now I have to go to Thetford Forest to attend a Suffolk Local Access Forum meeting and won't be back home till 11pm.

I'm only saying hello really as I'm not so hot on Agarics, but just going by pictures only in Phillip's, how about A.bresadolanus ?

Must rush,

Neil.

P.S. Ha, you have 2 replies all of a sudden !!
And since you're 'on air' Nick - it's Forestry Commission High Lodge I'm off to.

[Steve Wurzel]

Checkout Agaricus impudicus Mal, it's not listed in Phillips but can look similar to a small A. Augustus with a smaller cap and longer stem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agaricus_impudicus

[FungiJohn]

Originally Posted by Steve Wurzel

Checkout Agaricus impudicus Mal, it's not listed in Phillips but can look similar to a small A. Augustus with a smaller cap and longer stem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agaricus_impudicus

Very interesting Steve. I found these at Clumber last weekend:





My find lacked the distinctive smell of A. impudicus (similar to lepiota cristata) and lead me to A. bresadolanus.

I now have them dried, so they may go to Kew.

John

[flaxton]

Originally Posted by Steve Wurzel

Checkout Agaricus impudicus Mal, it's not listed in Phillips but can look similar to a small A. Augustus with a smaller cap and longer stem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agaricus_impudicus

Thanks for that Steve not in Phillips - or B&K or Courtecuisse but it is in my new Flora Agaricina Neerlandica and it fits perfectly macroscopically Will try the microscopic tomorrow.

Mal

[FungiJohn]

Hi Mal

Yours fits in very well with Agaricus bresadolanus with respect to the rooting strands - described in 'Fungi of Britain and Europe' - Stefan Buczacki.

Still a good find ... whatever we have

John

[flaxton]

Originally Posted by FungiJohn

Hi Mal

Yours fits in very well with Agaricus bresadolanus with respect to the rooting strands - described in 'Fungi of Britain and Europe' - Stefan Buczacki.

Still a good find ... whatever we have

John

John
I see what you mean.
I will let you know from the spores which mine at least might be

Mal

[Steve Wurzel]

Originally Posted by FungiJohn

Yours fits in very well with Agaricus bresadolanus with respect to the rooting strands - described in 'Fungi of Britain and Europe' - Stefan Buczacki.

The rooting strands are quite robust on examples I've looked at John.. see Phillips p238(c)

..and here's some online examples,
http://www.apasseggionelbosco.it/for...1187802329.jpg

http://www.apasseggionelbosco.it/for...1187802645.jpg

http://www.ambmuggia.it/forum/upload...1190049403.jpg


..and the distinctive smell was of "chocolate" from an example I found!!

It would be nice to get this one nailed, I'll add Agaricus bresadolanus to my lookalike a Prince cap though John.. thanks.

[flaxton]

Steve (and John)
You were right with impudicus The spore sizes the number of lamellae and lamellulae, the size of the annulus, the none staining flesh and the long narrow rhizomorphs (which I hadn't even noticed until they were pointed out) all fit so impudicus it is.
Thanks again

Mal