Leccinum sp for ID please

Nettle Runner · #1 (**permalink**) 25-09-2008, 07:42 PM

Little Stones, Anston 25 Sept 2008

Found growing in grass amongst gorse, with Oak and S Birch close by.

Colour change after 15 mins

I can't decide between L. quercinum and L. versipelle as the habitat would suit either sp.

Your comments and observations welcomed
Les

NickCantle · #2 (**permalink**) 25-09-2008, 07:47 PM

I recently asked about the difference between the two and Mal kindly handed out the answer;

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flaxton

Versipelle has dark brown to black scales and a dull orange cap quercinum brown to orange scales and an orange to brick red cap

So going on that, I'd say yours is Leccinum versipelle Les.

What do you think?

Nick

flaxton · #3 (**permalink**) 25-09-2008, 08:41 PM

I'd go along with that Nick

Mal

NickCantle · #4 (**permalink**) 25-09-2008, 09:03 PM

Only because if you didn't, you'd be contradicting yourself

Only joking Mal, you do know your stuff

I've often wondered about the Leccinum branch, and how certain ones are distinguishable from each other. It must come with experience and lots of reading; Both of which, I enjoy

flaxton · #5 (**permalink**) 25-09-2008, 09:05 PM

And the odd workshop

Mal

Nettle Runner · #6 (**permalink**) 26-09-2008, 06:54 AM

Thanks Nick, (with a little help from Mal

)

I see that I shall have to follow you closely at Clumber, to see if I can pick up any tips.

I have got Duke of York and JennyWrenny organised for Saturday's foray at least.

Les

Andy Overall · #7 (**permalink**) 26-09-2008, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nettle Runner

Little Stones, Anston 25 Sept 2008

Found growing in grass amongst gorse, with Oak and S Birch close by.

Colour change after 15 mins

I can't decide between L. quercinum and L. versipelle as the habitat would suit either sp.

Your comments and observations welcomed
Les

Hi Les,

I think I going to have to disagree with L. versipelle for the top picture, as the scaling looks distinctly red-brown to me, therefore it has to be L. aurantiacum. This name it seems is also up for discussion as L. quercinum seems to be treated as a separate species in some quarters and synonymous with L aurantiacum in others. Its the fungi lottery, this weeks its a Leccinum rollover. Take your choice but L. versipelle it is not.

Andy

NickCantle · #8 (**permalink**) 26-09-2008, 12:16 PM

Complications

CloudedYellow · #9 (**permalink**) 26-09-2008, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Overall

Hi Les,
Take your choice but L. versipelle it is not.

Andy

Mmmm, I am no expert but nearly decided to add my half penny's worth this morning. I was going to say not versipelle when I saw the first image. But then, looking at the second image, the stipe look like versipelle! I therefore decided not to post a reply!

I don't know quercinum or it's changes on curring but the darkening shown in the third image is IMO, consistent with versipelle.

Which of the first two images is a more accurate represention of the stipe marking Les?

Richard

Nettle Runner · #10 (**permalink**) 26-09-2008, 08:17 PM

I have only just started saving my images as RAW / JPEG
The image posted was from the JPEG file

When looking at the RAW images in Lightroom, if I select "as shot" for the WB, then the stipe markings look black. However, if I select "Auto" then the do look to have a warmer colour, but I would not say they were Red/Brown.

But I'm certainly no expert with RAW files or Lightroom.

So I would say that the second image shows the markings better.

Hope that helps
Les