Russulas

[flaxton]

Specially for Andy

First one 1/4 peeling taste hot spore print pale cream Fe on stipe very little change no change with ammonia.



Second one 3/4 peeling taste mild spore print white Fe again little change maybe just pale yellow



Third one 1/2 peeling white/pale cream print mild tasting Fe orange but the cap dried out much more green





The ochroleuca was just tooooo easy to even include

Mal

Ps I know what I think

[Andy Overall]

Originally Posted by flaxton

Specially for Andy

First one 1/4 peeling taste hot spore print pale cream Fe on stipe very little change no change with ammonia.



Second one 3/4 peeling taste mild spore print white Fe again little change maybe just pale yellow



Third one 1/2 peeling white/pale cream print mild tasting Fe orange but the cap dried out much more green





The ochroleuca was just tooooo easy to even include

Mal

Ps I know what I think

Thanks for that.

Ok, lets see if we can match up.

A. Russula sardonia

B. Russula atropurpurea

C. Russula grisea/ionochlora

Hows that?

Andy

[flaxton]

Originally Posted by Andy Overall

Thanks for that.

Ok, lets see if we can match up.

A. Russula sardonia

B. Russula atropurpurea

C. Russula grisea/ionochlora

Hows that?

Andy

Andy
B & C Thats what I had but the first one there was no reaction to Ammonia and Sardonia gills turn pink even with just Ammonia fumes
Mal

[Fungus Ken]

Originally Posted by flaxton

Andy
B & C Thats what I had but the first one there was no reaction to Ammonia and Sardonia gills turn pink even with just Ammonia fumes
Mal

For the first one you don't mention if the soil was calcareous. If so, Russula queletii is a strong possibility with that spruce cone in view as a clue.

On acid soils the rarer R. fuscorubroides would have to be considered.

Ken

[flaxton]

Originally Posted by Fungus Ken

For the first one you don't mention if the soil was calcareous. If so, Russula queletii is a strong possibility with that spruce cone in view as a clue.

On acid soils the rarer R. fuscorubroides would have to be considered.

Ken

Ken

Those were the two I had in mind but not sure of the soil type How do I find out

Mal

[Fungus Ken]

Originally Posted by flaxton

Ken

Those were the two I had in mind but not sure of the soil type How do I find out

Mal

Here are some options:

- along with the myriad of other things you have to take around with you, you carry a portable soil testing kit... perhaps a bit impractical?
- you look for some rock outcrops to give you a clue, but that relies on you knowing your limestone or chalk from your sandstones or gritstones etc
- you look at the stones in any nearby walls, providing they are made of local stone.
- you spend a few minutes identifying all the surrounding indicator plant species, but that depends on you being familar with the local flora.
- or my preferred option, and the one I tend to rely on because I am usually out with people who do, you ask someone who's been there before and knows these things.

Ringing my Dad is also an option I can use as he is a retired geologist... but I guess that's probably not an option for everyone else. However, he does live in Leeds and knows Yorkshire quite well, so I could always email him for you! But then again, you can get quite local variations in soil pH, which is why there is no substitute for knowing your plants.

Ken

[Andy Overall]

Originally Posted by Fungus Ken

For the first one you don't mention if the soil was calcareous. If so, Russula queletii is a strong possibility with that spruce cone in view as a clue.

On acid soils the rarer R. fuscorubroides would have to be considered.

Ken

Ok, thenR. queletii as Ken suggests, does sound like the next best bet, until gotten under the scope, though it is one that came to mind. To be honest I haven't done the ammonia thing with R. sardonia in the past, mainly did it by spore print, taste and then microscopic. Don't see it at all in fact in my neck of the woods, have to get out to Surrey to see a lot of these conifer Russula.

Andy