Long stemmed mushroom and others for ID help plz

[Steve Wurzel]

I found these tonight while out walking the dog, (well the dog sits there while I'm snapping funghi photos )

Yet again what I think should be an easy ID turns out to be more complex, but I'm sure you'll find these easy peasy

No1 was on a pathside log in mixed woodland.. the cap (up to 75mm) on this mushroom was fragile and broke easily into pieces, the stem was of tougher material and is slighly hollow with a small bore down the centre.




No2 was on the ground right behind the log above (in mixed woodland) and has a stem of around 8 inches with a cap of around 3 inches, and this beautiful specimen I left where it stood. (if this turns out to be Xerula radicata I'll eat my cap!!)




No3 Is for Cap & Bracket It's Yellow "Caca de Luna"
These photos are taken at 2 different locations in the same woods, I assume it's a young and mature example of he same species, the young was soggy, and the mature was powdery producing the dark brown or black spores when touched.





I swear that in the last photo it is coming to eat me

No4 A nice little stump cluster, under a Yew tree, but it could possibly be any other tree. A sycamore was alongside also.


Please ask if you need other info to ID. Thanks in advance.

[Steve Wurzel]

No3 contd.. I missed the photo of the spores that appeared when it touched the powdery yellow surface. My guess is it's Dog Vomit Funghi.





no4 contd.. Another one I missed, only one more but an important one for ID..



Cheers
Steve

[flaxton]

Would you like chips with your cap

Mal

[Fungus Ken]

Originally Posted by flaxton

Would you like chips with your cap

Mal

... and perhaps a little ketchup to ease the passage? Told you it was common.

The first is probably a Psathyrella and the last a Coprinellus.

Ken

[Andy Overall]

Originally Posted by Steve Wurzel

No3 contd.. I missed the photo of the spores that appeared when it touched the powdery yellow surface. My guess is it's Dog Vomit Funghi.





no4 contd.. Another one I missed, only one more but an important one for ID..



Cheers
Steve

Steve,

No 1, Is Psathyrella candolleana you often get them on these logs used for woodland borders etc. Very fragile mushroom.

NO 2 - You guessed it - Xerula radicata that long, straight and tall stem, with the toffee brown cap.

NO 3 - Possibly 'Flowers of Tan' Slime Mould

No 4 - Coprinellus micaceus most likely, could be a close look-alike.

Andy

[Fungus Ken]

Originally Posted by Andy Overall

Steve,

No 1, Is Psathyrella candolleana you often get them on these logs used for woodland borders etc. Very fragile mushroom.

You're a brave man putting a definitive name to a Psathyrella from a photo.

If I find P. candolleana looking pale and fresh I will usually hazard putting a name to it. But if I find a Psathyrella like Steve's which is past its prime and covered in spores...

... I tend to say I don't do Psathyrella because I don't have any up to date literature...

... and then I look for someone else's basket to drop it into.

Ken

[Leif]

Originally Posted by Fungus Ken

You're a brave man putting a definitive name to a Psathyrella from a photo.

I don't know if he is right, but it is a sensible guess given the time of year. I would not have been so brave/learned.

There are a few Psathyrellas that I feel confident naming from a photo. To be honest there are som many clues missing in a photo such as size, since I find it hard to judge unless there are obvious cues.

[Andy Overall]

Originally Posted by Fungus Ken

You're a brave man putting a definitive name to a Psathyrella from a photo.

If I find P. candolleana looking pale and fresh I will usually hazard putting a name to it. But if I find a Psathyrella like Steve's which is past its prime and covered in spores...

... I tend to say I don't do Psathyrella because I don't have any up to date literature...

... and then I look for someone else's basket to drop it into.

Ken

Hi Ken,

I have no problem in identifying P. candolleana from the pic, especially the pic of them all squeezing out from underneath the log I've seen it a thousand times in this situation. Not particularly brave on my part as I feel totally confident in knowing that is what it is. Having said that Psathyrella as a genus I think we all find difficult, though P. candolleana is one of the easier ones, he say's winding his neck back in. No, seriously, its P. candolleana.

Andy

[Steve Wurzel]

Originally Posted by Leif

There are a few Psathyrellas that I feel confident naming from a photo. To be honest there are som many clues missing in a photo such as size, since I find it hard to judge unless there are obvious cues.

Is this an "obvious clue" (tape in inches)



The stem was quite robust and not extremely hollow, whereas the cap fell apart quite easily, which I think cast doubts on Psathyrella candolleana - Pale Brittlestem which has a "brittle hollow stem", in references I read, perhaps a "Brittle Cap" would be more appropriate

The mushroom on the far right is No4 the suspected Coprinellus micaceus by Andy.

So No2 was Xerula radicata at least I shouldn't forget what they look like "normally" (Ken!!)
I've eaten my cap.. Agaricus campestris smothered in butter and grated smoked cheese and bbq'd.. luverly


No3 Fuligo septica looks favourite, I've never heard it called "Flowers of Tan" before only "Dog Vomit Fungus" or "Scrambled Egg Fungus", or "Caca de Luna" as the mexican's call the young plasmodia before they eat it!!

I might have go back and try some

[Andy Overall]

[quote=Steve Wurzel;310571]Is this an "obvious clue" (tape in inches)



The stem was quite robust and not extremely hollow, whereas the cap fell apart quite easily, which I think cast doubts on Psathyrella candolleana - Pale Brittlestem which has a "brittle hollow stem", in references I read, perhaps a "Brittle Cap" would be more appropriate


I would still go for P. candolleana, you say "not extremely hollow" which implies it is somewhat hollow? It can grow up to 3inches across on the cap, which as you describe, can fall apart easily.

Andy

[Leif]

Originally Posted by Steve Wurzel

Is this an "obvious clue" (tape in inches)

Yes that is indeed a tape measure.

As for the bits of decomposing fungus, I do not know P. candolleana well enough to comment. It is one of those fungi I see a lot, and usually ignore. No doubt some bright spark will at some point realise that it encompasses 5 or more easily distinguished species, and we will then celebrate the joyous news. (Actually I am one of those people who dispairs when the splitters get to work. Boertmann is a hero IMO.)

[CapAndBracket]

Good man leif, i always refer to the Eskimo / Aborigonie (both Homo sapiens).

Cheers J.P.

[Steve Wurzel]

Originally Posted by Leif

Yes that is indeed a tape measure.

In response to your request for more info eg size, sorry it wasn't of any help.

Originally Posted by Andy Overall

I would still go for P. candolleana, you say "not extremely hollow" which implies it is somewhat hollow?.

If it were a type of house you'd probably describe the wall thickness as suitable for a castle Actually you can see the hollowness of the stem in the last photo with the tape measure, although the angle in the photo makes the bore appear slightly larger than it was in reality, if the overall diameter of the stem is 5mm and the wall thickness was 2mm then centre bore was 1mm, does that sound good for P. candolleana?

[Andy Overall]

Originally Posted by Steve Wurzel

In response to your request for more info eg size, sorry it wasn't of any help.



If it were a type of house you'd probably describe the wall thickness as suitable for a castle Actually you can see the hollowness of the stem in the last photo with the tape measure, although the angle in the photo makes the bore appear slightly larger than it was in reality, if the overall diameter of the stem is 5mm and the wall thickness was 2mm then centre bore was 1mm, does that sound good for P. candolleana?

Steve, I think thats OK for P. candolleana here is a pic of said species in a practically identical situation looking just like your chaps.

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Andy

[Fungus Ken]

There's definitely plenty of Psathyrella candolleana around at the moment. I found lots of nice fresh specimens today at Moses Gate Country Park, all looking fairly unmistakeable.

Ken