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22-07-2008, 05:04 PM
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| | | macrolepiota rhacodes var bohemica
I spotted a troupe of these a little over a week ago but they had only just started to emerge and so I left them to grow a bit bigger so that I could be 100% sure of my ID and so there'd be more to try. I went back to check on them every couple of days and when I went on Sunday, they looked like they'd be good size to pick today. I went back to pick them and the b*^^dy groundskeepers had mowed them all down. Every last one. I don't know whether to chase them and hit them over the head with their stupid lawn mowers or cry. Same fate was suffered by on horse mushroom and several large fairy rings. I don't mind so much about the latter two but these would have been my first M. Rhacodes var. Bohemica. All I can do now is hope that they pop up again over the next few weeks before I leave the country. How likely do you think that is??  I'm as sure of the ID as I can be without a spore print as the bits I salvaged to have a play with are whitish with large dark brown shaggy scales. The base is a light brown and very bulbous. The gills are a light pink and crowded. They were growing on grass under a rowan tree. When I first found them they had just started to emerge and were a brown blob on top of a circular white base. ARGH I am so annoyed right now! Sorry to vent but I figured if anyone would understand how peed off I am right now, it would be you guys!  |
22-07-2008, 05:46 PM
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| | | Re: macrolepiota rhacodes var bohemica
I recently found an emergent Meripilus giganteus - Giant polypore and on a follow up monitoring visit I discovered someone, or more likely something, had ravaged it. Fortunately it recovered and I am hoping for great things over the coming months. Here's hoping I am not going to suffer the same sort of disappointment as Minamoo. 
David |
22-07-2008, 06:15 PM
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| | | Re: macrolepiota rhacodes var bohemica
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Originally Posted by Minamoo  I spotted a troupe of these a little over a week ago but they had only just started to emerge and so I left them to grow a bit bigger so that I could be 100% sure of my ID and so there'd be more to try. I went back to check on them every couple of days and when I went on Sunday, they looked like they'd be good size to pick today. I went back to pick them and the b*^^dy groundskeepers had mowed them all down. Every last one. I don't know whether to chase them and hit them over the head with their stupid lawn mowers or cry. Same fate was suffered by on horse mushroom and several large fairy rings. I don't mind so much about the latter two but these would have been my first M. Rhacodes var. Bohemica. All I can do now is hope that they pop up again over the next few weeks before I leave the country. How likely do you think that is?? I'm as sure of the ID as I can be without a spore print as the bits I salvaged to have a play with are whitish with large dark brown shaggy scales. The base is a light brown and very bulbous. The gills are a light pink and crowded. They were growing on grass under a rowan tree. When I first found them they had just started to emerge and were a brown blob on top of a circular white base. ARGH I am so annoyed right now! Sorry to vent but I figured if anyone would understand how peed off I am right now, it would be you guys! |
Last September I came across a large fruit body of Grifola frondosa and as I was working at the time I vowed to pop back later, get some pics etc etc. I popped back within the hour and it was gone, nothing left of it. I was astonished, whoever it was must of been there at the same time that I discovered it, or shortly after, how freaky is that? This was one of many reminders to me, that if I came across anything of interest, fungi wise, then there is no time better than the present to collect it. I have lost count of the times I have left things for a few days only to return to find nothing, if someone else doesn't get them the squirrels will.
By the way just out of interest, M. rhacodes, is now Chlorophyllum rhacodes. Bon Voyage.
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22-07-2008, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy Overall By the way just out of interest, M. rhacodes, is now Chlorophyllum rhacodes. | Oh thanks for that! I ID'd them using some books I got out of the library and the names of fungi keep changing! So is it now Chlorophyllum Rhacodes var. bohemica? or is it just C. Rhacodes and M Rhacodes var. bohemica? |
22-07-2008, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Minamoo Oh thanks for that! I ID'd them using some books I got out of the library and the names of fungi keep changing! So is it now Chlorophyllum Rhacodes var. bohemica? or is it just C. Rhacodes and M Rhacodes var. bohemica? | Macrolepiota rhacodes var. bohemica (Wichanský) Bellů & Lanzoni 1987 (= Chlorophyllum brunneum)
Chlorophyllum brunneum (Farl. & Burt) Vellinga, Mycotaxon 83: 416 (2002)
Synonyms:
Lepiota rhacodes var. hortensis Pilát, Klic. urc. Hub hrib. bedl. (Praha): 242 (1951)
Lepiota bohemica Wichanský, Časopis Československých Houbařů 38: 103 (1961)
Macrolepiota rhacodes var. hortensis (Pilát) Wasser, Flora Gribov Ukrainy. Agarikoyve Griby (Kiev): 298 (1980)
Macrolepiota rhacodes var. bohemica (Wichanský) Bellů & Lanzoni, Beiträge zur Kenntnis der Pilze Mitteleuropas 3: 191 (1987)
Macrolepiota brunnea (Farl. & Burt) Wasser, Libri Botanici (Eching bei München) 9: 82 (1993)
Habitat: On soil in nitrogen enriched habitat such as compost heaps and manured flowerbeds.
Notes: Rarely reported or collected.
Distribution: Eng:
Extracted from Checklist of the British & Irish Basidiomycota
David
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22-07-2008, 07:04 PM
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Okay you're going to have to excuse me as I am of the recently-converted-obsessive-mycologists variety and have NO idea what that means! lol! Sorry! Anyone care to translate? (This is like talking to a friend of mine who speaks Yorkshirenese.......or my American flatmates. I'm having to learn a whole new language. I keep having to get him to clarify what he means by "come over for tea"  ) |
22-07-2008, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Minamoo Okay you're going to have to excuse me as I am of the recently-converted-obsessive-mycologists variety and have NO idea what that means! lol! Sorry! Anyone care to translate? (This is like talking to a friend of mine who speaks Yorkshirenese.......or my American flatmates. I'm having to learn a whole new language. I keep having to get him to clarify what he means by "come over for tea" ) | Chlorophyllum brunneum is the current (since 2002) name for your species which has had several synonyms in the course of time, including Macrolepiota rhacodes var. bohemica
The check list produced by The Royal Botanical Gardens at Kew is a good reference for checking on the latest taxonomy: http://www.basidiochecklist.info/index.htm
David
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22-07-2008, 07:32 PM
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Super! Thanks David! That looks like a website I will be seeing a lot more of. I spotted a print copy of that checklist in the library but I don't know how recent it is so the website is probably the best for that.
Mina. |
22-07-2008, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Minamoo Super! Thanks David! That looks like a website I will be seeing a lot more of. I spotted a print copy of that checklist in the library but I don't know how recent it is so the website is probably the best for that.
Mina. | And don't forget Mina, having personally fallen foul of quoting outdated facts from it, there is, as I discovered from mykonik (Nick Legon) the senior editor of the list, an annual amendment published, so tread warily.
David |
22-07-2008, 08:21 PM
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| | | Re: macrolepiota rhacodes var bohemica
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Originally Posted by cybershot Chlorophyllum brunneum is the current (since 2002) name for your species which has had several synonyms in the course of time, including Macrolepiota rhacodes var. bohemica
The check list produced by The Royal Botanical Gardens at Kew is a good reference for checking on the latest taxonomy: BasidiomycotaChecklist - Home
David | Whoops overlooked that one Apologies for that, I should of double checked with the checklist! Happens to the best of us. Its one of those species I've always been doubtful of as being any different from C. rhacodes, which is most likely what Minamoo found anyway.
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