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20-07-2008, 10:32 AM
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| | | Re: Fungi ID needed Extracted from the BC:
Tapinella panuoides (Fr.) E.-J. Gilbert, Les Bolets: 68 (1931)
Synonyms:
Agaricus panuoides Fr., Observ. mycol. (Leipzig) 2: 227 (1818)
Paxillus panuoides (Fr.) Fr., Epicr. syst. mycol. (Uppsala): 318 (1838)
Paxillus fagi Berk. & Broome, Ann. Mag. nat. Hist. Ser. 5 [Notices of British Fungi No. 1961] 9: 181 (1882)
Paxillus panuoides var. fagi (Berk. & Broome) Cooke, Handbook of British Fungi Edn 2 (London): 288 (1883)
Paxillus panuoides var. ionipes Quél., Fl. Mycol. France (Paris): 111 (1888)
Paxillus panuoides var. rubrosquamulosus Svrček & Kubička, Česká Mykol. 18: 173 (1964)
Habitat: On decayed wood (including sawdust) of conifers, most frequently on fallen trunks of Pinus sylvestris and formerly not infrequent on pit props in mines. Rarely on deciduous wood but known on Betula spp., Fagus and Prunus avium.
Notes: Occasional but widespread. Basidiomes with a strong development of violaceous-lilac mycelium at the stipe base have been referred to var. ionipes and those with prominent reddish scales on the pileus to var. rubrosquamulosus. | 
20-07-2008, 10:51 AM
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| | | Re: Fungi ID needed Apart from Leif's post at #24 it looks like welsh.lensman's thread on Pleurotus got hijacked at #19 thro #26 - perhaps FJ could split and make a new thread for Nick's Tapinella
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20-07-2008, 12:15 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi ID needed Quote:
Originally Posted by NickCantle He's on about my apparent Panus find   Read my post above Ken's. | Oh! Nice pictures though. Even if you did wander off topic and confuse at least one simple minded member.  | 
20-07-2008, 01:39 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi ID needed NEIL took it off topic by asking the question  | 
20-07-2008, 05:48 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi ID needed Quote:
Originally Posted by Leif Such as common sense no doubt. IMO a Ph.D. is nothing more than a way for universities to get cheap labour in exchange for a largely worthless piece of paper. You are better off spending those 3 years earning proper money, and learning something of use.
As I understand it, some academic disciplines such as physics require a Ph.D. if you want to obtain a university post, but it is not the case in all fields.
I seem to have wandered off topic.  |
Actually you have hit the spot Leif - I was asked to do a study on vitamin B6 uptake in the Euglenophysae (algae) for three years - when asked what if any the practical applications were, I was told there were none but that they had received a grant from somewhere for the research to be carried out !
I never did find out why (apart from the fact that my tutor was an algologist which may have some bearing on the project !)
But it seemed to be a tedious and pointless waste of time, energy and money so I didn't bother.
And I was told that I could not do what I wanted to (to examine human blood group lectins, in fungi) - which did have practical applications !
Nick  | 
20-07-2008, 06:20 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi ID needed Quote:
Originally Posted by welsh.lensman This is probably a common variety, but it still has me stumped, can anyone ID it for me please.
Thanks in advance.
Wayne. | Having read through all the discussion on this one all I would say is that all of the comments to its identity are just pure guesswork !
There is no way anyone could really say anything concrete about what this is (or might be !) with regard to it being a Lentinus or a Pleurotus etc., since you can't see any of the necessary details (gill edges etc).
Nothing wrong with discussion BUT..... this one is a non-starter !
Nick  | 
20-07-2008, 06:28 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi ID needed Quote:
Originally Posted by NickCantle Evening/morning Wayne,
Did you manage to get a photograph of the underside? It could be a Pleurotus, Tapinella, Panus, I could go on  | huh humm?    | 
20-07-2008, 06:36 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi ID needed some one could be right, i'm with FJ on this one,
camera induced red eye.
Cheers J.P. | 
20-07-2008, 07:21 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi ID needed Quote:
Originally Posted by Leif Ken: Are you talking about the photo at the top of the thread? It does seem very unlikely to me, though I have not seen Tapinella panuoides often. | As Nick said, I was referring to his specimen, not welsh lensman's. I guess the confusion was my fault for being lazy and not quoting Nick's post to be clear what I was referring to.
Although I agree we can't put a name with any certainty to the photo which was the original subject of this thread, one thing we can agree on is that it is NOT Tapinella panuoides because the smooth and somewhat reflective texture of the cuticle in the photo rules out Tapinella.
Ken | 
20-07-2008, 09:48 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi ID needed Quote:
Originally Posted by NickCantle | I refer you to my earlier post:
"I am still not convinced that it might not be a Lentinellus species. I think Nick's post (second in thread) says it all."
I don't know, refusing to acknowledge my acknowledgement of your post.  The youf of today ...  | 
20-07-2008, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mykonik But it seemed to be a tedious and pointless waste of time, energy and money so I didn't bother.
And I was told that I could not do what I wanted to (to examine human blood group lectins, in fungi) - which did have practical applications ! | I think most Ph.D. research is only of use for becoming an academic, and then the vast majority of those who obtain a Ph.D. leave academia anyway, as competition is intense for very few academic jobs. I know people who did not get a 'permanent' post until their 40's.
They do say that a Ph.D. is a training to think, but IMO the complete opposite is the case. The narrow minded world view of many academics is worse them useless in the commercial world. Which is a shame because graduates do not learn relevant skills, such as producing a good engineering solution, rather than the so-called 'correct' one. But, I'd better get off my soapbox.  | 
21-07-2008, 08:23 AM
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| | | Re: Fungi ID needed Quote:
Originally Posted by Leif I think most Ph.D. research is only of use for becoming an academic, and then the vast majority of those who obtain a Ph.D. leave academia anyway, as competition is intense for very few academic jobs. I know people who did not get a 'permanent' post until their 40's.
They do say that a Ph.D. is a training to think, but IMO the complete opposite is the case. The narrow minded world view of many academics is worse them useless in the commercial world. Which is a shame because graduates do not learn relevant skills, such as producing a good engineering solution, rather than the so-called 'correct' one. But, I'd better get off my soapbox.  |
Leif.
Ph.D a 'training to think' - most of the Phd's I know couldn't run a bath, let alone a department or a business - as you say the narrow minded view of academia is definietely there and the whole thing set up as somewhere to coccoon oneself from the rigours of the world !
Also a way to exclude those who don't fit into the little elite club of those with them !!
Nick  | 
21-07-2008, 11:15 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi ID needed Quote:
Originally Posted by FungiJohn A nice image what ever Wayne. At least they don't move! I've still to get a good shot of a Dragonfly!
John  | This fellow (gal) stayed still long enough for a reasonable photo in the garden today 
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24-07-2008, 10:46 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi ID needed WoW, I've been away from this post for a while thinking the fungi had been ID by FungiJohn, imagine my surprise when I clicked on it and saw 2 pages of discussion (only about half a page on my fungus).
Sorry I have'nt got back to you before fairplay and Leif regarding the redness, as far as I can remember the red colour is more to do with the flash than than its actual colour.
Little did I know when I started this thread that it would cause so much controversy, I think from now on I'll stick to dragonflies. Ha Ha
A big thank you to all of you who contributed, and again sorry for the delay in replying.
Wayne.
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25-07-2008, 03:37 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi ID needed Quote:
Originally Posted by mykonik Leif.
Ph.D a 'training to think' - most of the Phd's I know couldn't run a bath, let alone a department or a business - as you say the narrow minded view of academia is definietely there and the whole thing set up as somewhere to coccoon oneself from the rigours of the world !
Also a way to exclude those who don't fit into the little elite club of those with them !!
Nick  | Oi there! I'm a PhD! I'll have you know that I not only ran my own jewelllery biz from the age of 14, I've started a charity back home in Kenya that's a free school and disabled people cooperative and I run a lovely bubble bath thank you very much. And all the PhDs I know are incredibly useful people who do loads of really cool things. (God I sound about 16 don't I? I couldn't think of any other word than "cool"!)  | 
25-07-2008, 08:46 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi ID needed Go get em Mina, that's my gall.  
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25-07-2008, 09:06 PM
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| | | Re: Fungi ID needed thank you Neil.  I must however say that my comment above doesn't necessarily refer to people who think that "transcendental" and "realism" are two words that should be put together or who actually use the word "germane" in a sentence.  |  | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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