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21-07-2008, 11:44 PM
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| | | Re: Boletus sp.? Quote:
Originally Posted by mykonik Ah, but what about Leccinum variicolor ??
Nick  | Nick
I have made lots of duff ID suggestions (which have often been corrected by you  ) but with that colour cap it is not like any variicolor I have ever seen nor I suspect you have ever seen
Mal | 
22-07-2008, 07:38 AM
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| | | Re: Boletus sp.? Quote:
Originally Posted by oxycera I deliberately bruised the flesh of the stem after I'd sliced it. No colour change took place; no idea if that's significant. | Yes it is significant. As Mal points out, it's not Leccinum variicolor. In any case the jizz just isn't right.
I think I'd call it Leccinum scabrum - in the absence of any strong evidence to push the identification in another direction that's where it would key out to.
But these Leccinum species are actually harder to place than you might think and you need to check out as many characteristics as possible if you hope to get a firm ID.
Ken | 
22-07-2008, 08:52 AM
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| | | Re: Boletus sp.? I totally agree with you Ken, but how do we do that and keep the public on side ?
Some years back on a foray where lots of Leccinum spp. were turning up, I found myself cutting lots in half to show the public any colour changes to help define species.
One woman criticised me for uprooting them, which was unfair, but someone criticised me for littering the place with later, discarded split samples, which in hindsight was fair comment.
I could have put them in the bin near the display table, but I wanted to dump them back in the wild for spores to disperse.
Has anyone else had these sort of problems ?
Neil. | 
22-07-2008, 10:07 AM
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| | | Re: Boletus sp.? Quote:
Originally Posted by Fungus Ken Yes it is significant. As Mal points out, it's not Leccinum variicolor. In any case the jizz just isn't right.
I think I'd call it Leccinum scabrum - in the absence of any strong evidence to push the identification in another direction that's where it would key out to.
But these Leccinum species are actually harder to place than you might think and you need to check out as many characteristics as possible if you hope to get a firm ID.
Ken | Hi Ken, this a useful, up to date, online key, to Leccinum in Europe, leccinum in Europa - engels. Some still 'agree' to differ in what they think which species constitute the genera, in my mind this key is as good as you are going to get.
Andy | 
22-07-2008, 11:30 AM
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| | | Re: Boletus sp.? Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Overall Hi Ken, this a useful, up to date, online key, to Leccinum in Europe, leccinum in Europa - engels. Some still 'agree' to differ in what they think which species constitute the genera, in my mind this key is as good as you are going to get.
Andy  | I posted the same link on the forum some time last year. It's a very useful website and the revisions make things a lot more manageable than working with the vast of array of species claimed by Lannoy and Estades. I never had much luck with their keys.
But even with the reduction in the number of species it's still hard work nevertheless to come up with a definitive answer for some specimens you find, particularly once they have started to go soggy. 
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