Amanitas for Identification

[flaxton]

A couple of Amanitas looking for a home in my files.

The first one from yesterday was almost pure white as it was bursting from the ground and its larger brother has some red areas where it had been eaten. When I cut it there was no rubescens red at all in the flesh, also no citrina smell of potatoes. So where next?



The second from a couple of years ago which I put down to excelsa but when I look now, could it be pantherina.



Any thoughts.

Thanks
Mal

[mykonik]

Originally Posted by flaxton

A couple of Amanitas looking for a home in my files.

The first one from yesterday was almost pure white as it was bursting from the ground and its larger brother has some red areas where it had been eaten. When I cut it there was no rubescens red at all in the flesh, also no citrina smell of potatoes. So where next?



The second from a couple of years ago which I put down to excelsa but when I look now, could it be pantherina.



Any thoughts.

Thanks
Mal

Well, I'd have said that the first one was Amanita excelsa or it's var. spissa and that you were correct with your intial diagnosis of the second -also A. excelsa but again maybe the var. spissa.

Thats if there is actually any difference between the two taxa in the first place ! Personally I'm not convinced !

The bottom photo is definitely not of Amanita pantherina - of that I am certain !

Nick

[flaxton]

Originally Posted by mykonik

Thats if there is actually any difference between the two taxa in the first place ! Personally I'm not convinced !


Nick

Speak to the bloke who wrote the Checklist then and get it changed

Mal

[Leif]

Originally Posted by flaxton

Speak to the bloke who wrote the Checklist then and get it changed

Mal

Maybe he was just following orders? (I suspect academic practice is to follow the accepted literature, unless you have concrete reasons to do otherwise.)

[mykonik]

Originally Posted by flaxton

Speak to the bloke who wrote the Checklist then and get it changed

Mal

I would Mal - if I could remember who he was - it was so long ago..............!!

Nick

[mykonik]

Originally Posted by Leif

Maybe he was just following orders? (I suspect academic practice is to follow the accepted literature, unless you have concrete reasons to do otherwise.)

You have that summed up perfectly Leif !

No, not quite that bad - was given some autonomy but always with the feeling of being watched by the powers that be.

Nick

[flaxton]

Originally Posted by mykonik

was given some autonomy but always with the feeling of being watched by the powers that be.

Nick

But surely the "powers that be" always agree

Mal

[mykonik]

Originally Posted by flaxton

But surely the "powers that be" always agree

Mal

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.................if I could write the sounds of hysterical laughter, I would !!!!

Nick