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Old 24-06-2008, 07:22 PM
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Anston Stones Foray 21 June 2008

Anston Stones Wood 21 June 2008
I thought I wood share with you some of the finds of the foray with FungiJohn and Clouded Yellow. I did have to return the next day to recover a pair of glasses I had left behind, and the lighting was much better.



We have the Anston Brook running through the wood, which is prone to flooding.




By way of an introduction, this Branched Oysterling was by the entrance.







A selection of Pluteus (I'll not embarrass myself by trying to get to sp level.



A Psathyraella sp.



Xylaria Longipes. I could not get a picture of this sp on Saturday as it was on such a steep bank. On Sunday I found a more accessible sample.



This was found on a Dryads Saddle



Is it a Dryad Saddle? I can't make my mind up.

Well thats my limit. I do have a few more if you are interested.
Hope you like them. Perhaps John will have a few more to add when he is next available.
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Anston Stones Wood 21 June 2008
I thought I wood share with you some of the finds of the foray with FungiJohn and Clouded Yellow. I did have to return the next day to recover a pair of glasses I had left behind, and the lighting was much better.



We have the Anston Brook running through the wood, which is prone to flooding.




By way of an introduction, this Branched Oysterling was by the entrance.







A selection of Pluteus (I'll not embarrass myself by trying to get to sp level.



A Psathyraella sp.



Xylaria Longipes. I could not get a picture of this sp on Saturday as it was on such a steep bank. On Sunday I found a more accessible sample.



This was found on a Dryads Saddle



Is it a Dryad Saddle? I can't make my mind up.

Well thats my limit. I do have a few more if you are interested.
Hope you like them. Perhaps John will have a few more to add when he is next available.
Les
Hi Les,

Just the type of woodland I like !

the photos are............(just in case you are interested)

1 & 2 Pleurotus sp. - not P. cornucopiae but most likely P. pulmonarius - I have no idea what a 'Branched Oysterling' is !!

3 Pluteus phlebophorus

4 Megacollybia platyphylla

5 Pluteus sp. [probably P. chrysophaeus]

6 Kuehneromyces mutabilis

7 Xylaria longipes

8 Hypomyces aurantiacus on what appears to be old basidiomes of Polyporus durus rather than P. squamosus (with that dark cap !)

9 Polyporus tuberaster [not P. squamosus since there is no black 'rind' on the lower parts of the stipes !]

Hope thats useful

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Old 24-06-2008, 09:44 PM
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Re: Anston Stones Foray 21 June 2008

Wow, what a wonderful haul. As ever, I'm very jealous. There is nothing of any note around my local patches.

The only doubt in my mind would be over the identification of Xylaria longipes. I wouldn't be convinced without looking at the spores. It looks more like old Xylaria hypoxylon to me.

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Old 25-06-2008, 06:51 AM
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Re: Anston Stones Foray 21 June 2008

Hi Les,

Thanks for an enjoyable time on Saturday even though I left early. I did sent you a message via email but I guess you did not get it.

Thanks as well for these excellent images.

Far be it for me to differ from Nick but I thought 6 was Psathyrella piluliformis, the stipe IMO was not right for Kuehneromyces mutabilis.

As Ken says I also wondered if the Xylaria were X. hypoxylon rather than longipes - I did query it at the time. Does anyone know if there is an easy way to tell them apart? I have since tried getting some spores but failed. but still have a couple of dried up specimens if they could be used to help the id.

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Re: Anston Stones Foray 21 June 2008

[quote=CloudedYellow;294507]Hi Les,

Thanks for an enjoyable time on Saturday even though I left early. I did sent you a message via email but I guess you did not get it.

Thanks as well for these excellent images.

Far be it for me to differ from Nick but I thought 6 was Psathyrella piluliformis, the stipe IMO was not right for Kuehneromyces mutabilis.

As Ken says I also wondered if the Xylaria were X. hypoxylon rather than longipes - I did query it at the time. Does anyone know if there is an easy way to tell them apart? I have since tried getting some spores but failed. but still have a couple of dried up specimens if they could be used to help the id.


Hi Richard - I really don't think that no. 6 is Psathyrella piluliformis - if you look at the stipes you will note that they are scaly, below the ring zone and the pilei are hygrophanous, drying out in the typical bicoloured manner of Kuehneromyces mutabilis

As to the Xylaria I would (on second looks) be less inclined to be so definite about that diagnosis and think that you and FungusKen might have a point about it being X. hypoxylon.

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Re: Anston Stones Foray 21 June 2008

Kuehneromyces mutabilis would appear to be spot on to me - all the distinguishing features are there : the 2 tone cap, the scaly stem below the clearly seen ring on the stipe, plus the way it grows in clumps.

I've eaten this many times as it has been appearing on the base of a Lime tree practically every year for the past 15 years at least.

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Old 25-06-2008, 11:25 AM
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Kuehneromyces mutabilis would appear to be spot on to me

Neil.
And to me too!!!

Les, is this the tuft we saw fairly early on which I said was Psathyrella piluliformis?? I don't think it can be the same can it?

I have just looked properly at image 6 (ie not just the thumbnail) and cannot remember seeing a ring or the 'booted' scales on Saturday. I did take one which I still have in the fridge - definitely no ring or scales on that.

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Re: Anston Stones Foray 21 June 2008

Yes Richard. Its one and the same.
I do have some more shots of these which I will load up tonight, to see if they can help.
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Yes Richard. Its one and the same.
I do have some more shots of these which I will load up tonight, to see if they can help.
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It is up to you Les but I am quite familiar with Kuehneromyces mutabilis and that is what image 6 is!! The only potential confusion sp. that I know of is Galerina marginata which I have not seen but I bet Neil will know the exact differences as he dines out on K. mutabalis.

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Re: Anston Stones Foray 21 June 2008

This is a pic taken on Sunday



and this one taken this evening



Hope these will help.
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Re: Anston Stones Foray 21 June 2008

The second photo could be dried out K. mutabilis but the first photo is 'dodgy'.

The gill colour isn't right for Psathyrella though, so I think we can rule this Genus out.

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The second photo could be dried out K. mutabilis but the first photo is 'dodgy'.

The gill colour isn't right for Psathyrella though, so I think we can rule this Genus out.

Neil.
I totally agree - neither is a Psathyrella, which would never, at any stage, have those cinnamon-brownish gills - the lower one definitely old Kuehneromyces showing in one specimen the bi-coloured drying out cap, (and not Galerina marginata since the stipe is scaled !) and the upper one 'dodgy' but probably the same !

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Here's one of my images if it helps ... No flash



I'll upload more from the excellent foray when I return from my residential ... and then I'm off to Cornwall to visit some sand dunes

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I'll upload more from the excellent foray when I return from my residential ... and then I'm off to Cornwall to visit some sand dunes

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Is this the same as the specimen (above) that is under debate John ?

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Is this the same as the specimen (above) that is under debate John ?

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Yes, this is the same one (originally thought as a Psathyraella sp.) Nick.

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Yes, this is the same one (originally thought as a Psathyraella sp.) Nick.

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Hmmm.........got any shots of the gills John ??

I can see them vaguely at the back but they don't appear to be the right colour again, for a Psathyrella

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Hmmm.........got any shots of the gills John ??

I can see them vaguely at the back but they don't appear to be the right colour again, for a Psathyrella

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Sadly not Nick I think we were fairly convinced that this was Psathyrella piluliformis at the time and I just took record images ... Oh why do I always do this

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Re: Anston Stones Foray 21 June 2008

Here are the rest of my pics from the weekend.





Both Lycogala_epidendrum I believe



Mycena ?







all unknown



and another myxo to finish off with.

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Re: Anston Stones Foray 21 June 2008

The last looks like a developing Tubifera.sp,
still waiting to find one down south.

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Here are the rest of my pics from the weekend.





Both Lycogala_epidendrum I believe



Mycena ?







all unknown



and another myxo to finish off with.

Les
Hi Les,

Ignoring the myxo's (I don't do them !) the fungi are..........

Probably Coprinus disseminatus (but might also just be Psathyrella pygmaea which looks similar and can only be distinguished microscopically !)

Mycena speirea

Psathyrella sp. by the look of it !

Immature resupinate polypore, possibly Skeletocutis nivea.

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