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Old 18-06-2008, 12:27 PM
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Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue

Here's a Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue. My first thoughts were of Boletus luridus given the broad network but I often get this one wrong



Any help much appreciated

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Old 18-06-2008, 12:40 PM
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Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue

Looks like classic B. luridiformis to me John.
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Old 18-06-2008, 01:33 PM
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Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue

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Looks like classic B. luridiformis to me John.
It's the lack of tiny red dots on the stem that suggests to me B. Luridus Nick.
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Old 18-06-2008, 01:35 PM
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Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue

I suppose it was wrong for me to comment actually and I probably should have resisted commenting- I'm no way confident enough with the intricacies of the more obscure species in the Boletus family. I concurred with B. luridiformis because I've seen photos, and we all know that doesn't always work- though I was slightly reassured when I thought of B. erythropus and then subsequently realised that it's a synonym of B. luridiformis I say that, anything that isn't B. edulis, B. badius or X/B chrysenteron is pretty obscure to me

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I suppose it was wrong for me to comment actually and I probably should have resisted commenting- I'm no way confident enough with the intricacies of the more obscure species in the Boletus family. I say that, anything that isn't B. edulis, B. badius or X/B chrysenteron is pretty obscure to me
I wouldn't worry Nick I didn't know myself until Ken pointed it out on one of my recent images
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Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue

That Ken, always stirring up trouble
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Old 18-06-2008, 01:44 PM
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That Ken, always stirring up trouble
Just wait until he visits Clumber, I'll show him
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Old 18-06-2008, 01:54 PM
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Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue

I'll be there too, don't forget me
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Old 18-06-2008, 02:11 PM
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DI say that, anything that isn't B. edulis, B. badius or X/B chrysenteron is pretty obscure to me
Chrysenteron have you seen what they have done to that now - It has all changed.

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Old 18-06-2008, 02:14 PM
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Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue

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Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue

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Here's a Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue. My first thoughts were of Boletus luridus given the broad network but I often get this one wrong



Any help much appreciated

John

Possibly B. luridus John, but seems a little too chunky in stature for that - however, as you say has the coloured reticulum on the stipe - a pity we couldn't see the pores which would have clarified matters !

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Old 18-06-2008, 02:50 PM
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Possibly B. luridus John, but seems a little too chunky in stature for that - however, as you say has the coloured reticulum on the stipe - a pity we couldn't see the pores which would have clarified matters !

Nick
Thanks Nick. I'll check other images. I'm quite certain the pores were perfectly round in shape.

John

edit : me talking rubbish as usual! Here's the pores ... and definately NOT perfectly rounded


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Old 18-06-2008, 03:53 PM
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Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue

Thumbs up to B. luridus.

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Old 18-06-2008, 07:41 PM
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Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue

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Thumbs up to B. luridus.
The pores would be small and round if it was luridus... wouldn't they?

FJ says they are "definitely NOT perfectly rounded"


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Old 18-06-2008, 08:58 PM
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Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue

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The pores would be small and round if it was luridus... wouldn't they?

FJ says they are "definitely NOT perfectly rounded"
I think this photo of an "alleged" Boletus luridus pores matches John's sample..

Boletus luridus - Lurid Bolet

I hope that helps with the ID.
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Old 19-06-2008, 12:16 AM
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Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue

Many thanks all

I'm quite certain it is Boletus luridus based mainly on the description in FoS vol 3 page 56 and other images / descriptions. The pores however, still leave me confused and I hope maybe Nick, Ken or someone can explain further regarding these and my second image if it helps.

One thing I have noticed, is that boletes can vary so much in their physical appearance which only adds to the confusion ... and fun I suppose

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Old 19-06-2008, 08:55 AM
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Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue

John, if you have the Bolete in question, cut it in half, where the tubes join the flesh of the cap there should be a red-orange line denoting the colour of the cap surface beneath the tubes indicating that it is B. luridus All of the features in both of your pictures point toward it being B. luridus

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Old 19-06-2008, 09:46 AM
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John, if you have the Bolete in question, cut it in half, where the tubes join the flesh of the cap there should be a red-orange line denoting the colour of the cap surface beneath the tubes indicating that it is B. luridus All of the features in both of your pictures point toward it being B. luridus

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Good morning Andy

It was a solitary species so I left it.

I'll keep an eye out for it and take more identification images next time, but I feel confident to have it as B. luridus. Many thanks

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Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue

I just realised that I said B. luridiformis before - I meant B. luridus
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Old 19-06-2008, 09:53 AM
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I just realised that I said B. luridiformis before - I meant B. luridus
Don't worry Nick, I used to think they were the same species ... and not that long ago either
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Old 20-06-2008, 07:09 PM
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Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue

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John, if you have the Bolete in question, cut it in half, where the tubes join the flesh of the cap there should be a red-orange line denoting the colour of the cap surface beneath the tubes indicating that it is B. luridus All of the features in both of your pictures point toward it being B. luridus

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Two I found today showing the red between the tubes and the cap.



When the stipe of luridus can be so different in colouration its not suprising we sometimes have trouble

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Two I found today showing the red between the tubes and the cap.
That is helpful, thanks Mal. And the pores even look small and round

Richard
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