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18-06-2008, 12:27 PM
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| | | Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue Here's a Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue. My first thoughts were of Boletus luridus given the broad network but I often get this one wrong
Any help much appreciated
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18-06-2008, 12:40 PM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue Looks like classic B. luridiformis to me John. | 
18-06-2008, 01:33 PM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue Quote:
Originally Posted by NickCantle Looks like classic B. luridiformis to me John. | It's the lack of tiny red dots on the stem that suggests to me B. Luridus Nick.
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18-06-2008, 01:35 PM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue I suppose it was wrong for me to comment actually and I probably should have resisted commenting- I'm no way confident enough with the intricacies of the more obscure species in the Boletus family. I concurred with B. luridiformis because I've seen photos, and we all know that doesn't always work- though I was slightly reassured when I thought of B. erythropus and then subsequently realised that it's a synonym of B. luridiformis  I say that, anything that isn't B. edulis, B. badius or X/B chrysenteron is pretty obscure to me 
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18-06-2008, 01:38 PM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue Quote:
Originally Posted by NickCantle I suppose it was wrong for me to comment actually and I probably should have resisted commenting- I'm no way confident enough with the intricacies of the more obscure species in the Boletus family. I say that, anything that isn't B. edulis, B. badius or X/B chrysenteron is pretty obscure to me  | I wouldn't worry Nick  I didn't know myself until Ken pointed it out on one of my recent images   | 
18-06-2008, 01:38 PM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue That Ken, always stirring up trouble   | 
18-06-2008, 01:44 PM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue Quote:
Originally Posted by NickCantle That Ken, always stirring up trouble   | Just wait until he visits Clumber, I'll show him  | 
18-06-2008, 01:54 PM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue I'll be there too, don't forget me  | 
18-06-2008, 02:11 PM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue Quote:
Originally Posted by NickCantle DI say that, anything that isn't B. edulis, B. badius or X/B chrysenteron is pretty obscure to me  | Chrysenteron  have you seen what they have done to that now - It has all changed.
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18-06-2008, 02:14 PM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue good point  | 
18-06-2008, 02:42 PM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue Quote:
Originally Posted by FungiJohn Here's a Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue. My first thoughts were of Boletus luridus given the broad network but I often get this one wrong
Any help much appreciated
John  |
Possibly B. luridus John, but seems a little too chunky in stature for that - however, as you say has the coloured reticulum on the stipe - a pity we couldn't see the pores which would have clarified matters !
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18-06-2008, 02:50 PM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue Quote:
Originally Posted by mykonik Possibly B. luridus John, but seems a little too chunky in stature for that - however, as you say has the coloured reticulum on the stipe - a pity we couldn't see the pores which would have clarified matters !
Nick  | Thanks Nick. I'll check other images. I'm quite certain the pores were perfectly round in shape.
John
edit : me talking rubbish as usual! Here's the pores ... and definately NOT perfectly rounded 
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18-06-2008, 03:53 PM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue Thumbs up to B. luridus.
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18-06-2008, 07:41 PM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue Quote:
Originally Posted by shroomboy Thumbs up to B. luridus. | The pores would be small and round if it was luridus... wouldn't they?
FJ says they are "definitely NOT perfectly rounded"
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18-06-2008, 08:58 PM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue Quote:
Originally Posted by CloudedYellow The pores would be small and round if it was luridus... wouldn't they?
FJ says they are "definitely NOT perfectly rounded" | I think this photo of an "alleged" Boletus luridus pores matches John's sample.. Boletus luridus - Lurid Bolet
I hope that helps with the ID. | 
19-06-2008, 12:16 AM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue Many thanks all
I'm quite certain it is Boletus luridus based mainly on the description in FoS vol 3 page 56 and other images / descriptions. The pores however, still leave me confused and I hope maybe Nick, Ken or someone can explain further regarding these and my second image if it helps.
One thing I have noticed, is that boletes can vary so much in their physical appearance  which only adds to the confusion ... and fun I suppose 
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19-06-2008, 08:55 AM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue John, if you have the Bolete in question, cut it in half, where the tubes join the flesh of the cap there should be a red-orange line denoting the colour of the cap surface beneath the tubes indicating that it is B. luridus All of the features in both of your pictures point toward it being B. luridus
Best
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19-06-2008, 09:46 AM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue Quote:
Originally Posted by shroomboy John, if you have the Bolete in question, cut it in half, where the tubes join the flesh of the cap there should be a red-orange line denoting the colour of the cap surface beneath the tubes indicating that it is B. luridus All of the features in both of your pictures point toward it being B. luridus
Best
Andy | Good morning Andy
It was a solitary species so I left it.
I'll keep an eye out for it and take more identification images next time, but I feel confident to have it as B. luridus. Many thanks
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19-06-2008, 09:46 AM
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19-06-2008, 09:53 AM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue Quote:
Originally Posted by NickCantle | Don't worry Nick, I used to think they were the same species ... and not that long ago either   | 
20-06-2008, 07:09 PM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue Quote:
Originally Posted by shroomboy John, if you have the Bolete in question, cut it in half, where the tubes join the flesh of the cap there should be a red-orange line denoting the colour of the cap surface beneath the tubes indicating that it is B. luridus All of the features in both of your pictures point toward it being B. luridus
Best
Andy | Two I found today showing the red between the tubes and the cap.
When the stipe of luridus can be so different in colouration its not suprising we sometimes have trouble
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20-06-2008, 07:44 PM
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| | | Re: Bolete from Lime Tree Avenue Quote:
Originally Posted by flaxton Two I found today showing the red between the tubes and the cap.
| That is helpful, thanks Mal. And the pores even look small and round
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