Lime Tree Ave Species 08_06_08

[FungiJohn]

Only on getting home and seeing this on screen did I realise it may be something a little different.



Please tell me it’s very common and I needn't go back and search for another

John

[shroomboy]

Hi John,

I may be able to put your mind at rest by saying that I think it is Psathyrella candolleana very common indeed.

Andy

[FungiJohn]

Originally Posted by shroomboy

Hi John,

I may be able to put your mind at rest by saying that I think it is Psathyrella candolleana very common indeed.

Andy

Many thanks Andy.

Even on a very sunny day the light under the Limes can be tricky regarding subtle colour .... That's my excuse anyway

John

[mykonik]

Originally Posted by FungiJohn

Only on getting home and seeing this on screen did I realise it may be something a little different.



Please tell me it’s very common and I needn't go back and search for another

John

Hi John,

Whilst Andy may well be correct, with his diagnosis of Psathyrella candolleana, especialy with regard to the pallid lilaceous colour of the gills [which may be immature] I should point out that this is one of the most difficult genera to name from specimens, let alone from photographs !

To me, the overall 'jizz' doesn't look right for P. candolleana- even with the known variability of this species, the colour and apparently slightly fibrillose nature of the pileus in your specimens looks 'amiss', and thus it could also just as well be Psathyrella tephrophylla, this also not infrequent (at least in southern and midland England !). Also there is a vague 'annular-zon like area towards the bottoms of the stipes in three of the specimens which does not immediately suggest P. candolleana !

Not as common as P. candolleana, but occuring during the summer - early autumn, and can be mistaken for it. If found when mature (ie P. tephrophylla) the very striking 'smoke-grey' colours of the gills make it easy to recognise (combined with a resemblence to P. candolleana !) but again I should stress that ALL Psathyrella specimens really need microscopy for a concrete diagnosis. Tedious I know, but otherwise it's just guessing !

Nick

[FungiJohn]

Originally Posted by mykonik

Hi John,

Whilst Andy may well be correct, with his diagnosis of Psathyrella candolleana, especialy with regard to the pallid lilaceous colour of the gills [which may be immature] I should point out that this is one of the most difficult genera to name from specimens, let alone from photographs !

To me, the overall 'jizz' doesn't look right for P. candolleana- even with the known variability of this species, the colour and apparently slightly fibrillose nature of the pileus in your specimens looks 'amiss', and thus it could also just as well be Psathyrella tephrophylla, this also not infrequent (at least in southern and midland England !). Also there is a vague 'annular-zon like area towards the bottoms of the stipes in three of the specimens which does not immediately suggest P. candolleana !

Not as common as P. candolleana, but occuring during the summer - early autumn, and can be mistaken for it. If found when mature (ie P. tephrophylla) the very striking 'smoke-grey' colours of the gills make it easy to recognise (combined with a resemblence to P. candolleana !) but again I should stress that ALL Psathyrella specimens really need microscopy for a concrete diagnosis. Tedious I know, but otherwise it's just guessing !

Nick

Hi Nick

Many thanks for this information.

I shall look out for this on my next visit, especially any mature fruiting bodies showing the characteristics you indicated. I'll also take a sample home for further analysis.

John

[shroomboy]

Point taken Nick, does look like P. candolleana though hey? I did notice the features you mention but couldn't tie then to anything similar. By the way did you get a look at my Psathyrella ?

Andy

[mykonik]

Originally Posted by shroomboy

Point taken Nick, does look like P. candolleana though hey? I did notice the features you mention but couldn't tie then to anything similar. By the way did you get a look at my Psathyrella ?

Andy

I did Andy - but sometimes it's prudent to keep ones mouth shut in certain circumstances !

Especially if one has not the faintest idea !!

Nick

[shroomboy]

Couldn't agree more.

Andy