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04-06-2008, 07:07 PM
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| | | Unknown fungi on wood This was found today growing on the wooden edging around a car park. The youngest was tan with squamules the older fruit-bodies were much paler but with dark squamules on the stipe. The spore print was white
Any thoughts anyone.
Thanks
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04-06-2008, 07:49 PM
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| | | Re: Unknown fungi on wood Quote:
Originally Posted by flaxton This was found today growing on the wooden edging around a car park. The youngest was tan with squamules the older fruit-bodies were much paler but with dark squamules on the stipe. The spore print was white
Any thoughts anyone.
Thanks
Mal | Hi Mal - were the edges of the lamellae serrated or notched, or smooth ?
It looks like a Neolentinus to me ! Maybe worth sending to Kew !!
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04-06-2008, 07:53 PM
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| | | Re: Unknown fungi on wood Quote:
Originally Posted by mykonik Hi Mal - were the edges of the lamellae serrated or notched, or smooth ?
It looks like a Neolentinus to me ! Maybe worth sending to Kew !!
Nick  | Just looked at a blown up image and the edges are distinctly notched / serrated - hence definitely a Neolentinus, probably N. lepideus (The Train Wrecker !)
But still might be worth sending to Kew !
Nick | 
04-06-2008, 08:06 PM
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| | | Re: Unknown fungi on wood Nick,
Are you thinking of Lentinus lepideus (or seemingly what used to be ?) also known as the Train Wrecker in the US of A because it eats railway sleepers ?
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04-06-2008, 08:11 PM
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| | | Re: Unknown fungi on wood Hah !! you just beat me to it Nick.
So the Genus has changed.
Sure enough, I found this on old railway sleepers at Cantley sugarbeat factory just over the border in Norfolk 7 years ago.
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04-06-2008, 08:31 PM
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| | | Re: Unknown fungi on wood Quote:
Originally Posted by fairplay Hah !! you just beat me to it Nick.
So the Genus has changed.
Sure enough, I found this on old railway sleepers at Cantley sugarbeat factory just over the border in Norfolk 7 years ago.
Neil. | Yes, another one thats changed Neil - very irritatingly (but not as irritatingly as all the Coprinus changes !)
Worth keeping ones eyes open for in exactly the type of habitat illustrated here - wood used a borders or steps in car parks and gardens - they are usually creosoted, often old railway sleepers, and Neolentinus actually likes that - it is selected put by the creosoting which tends to kill of most other fungi and thus gives the Neolentinus a head start !
Exactly like the Americans found out (and also in Britain to a lesser extent) when it started eating their wooden railway sleepers in a big way !! (And also telegraph poles !)
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04-06-2008, 09:46 PM
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| | | Re: Unknown fungi on wood Some 13 odd years ago, I cut down a very large and dead Monterey Pine at waist height and carved a seat out of the stump with the chainsaw.
I then poured a whole can of Cuprinol over the entire seat covering every square inch right down to the ground.
One year later (if that) my only record of Pluteus atromarginatus/nigrofloccosus (with the black gill edge) popped out about 3 inches from the base.
Is this species known to be tolerant of Cuprinol ? as the base is where most of the Cuprinol ran down to, so was thoroughly soaked.
Neil.
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04-06-2008, 10:32 PM
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| | | Re: Unknown fungi on wood Quote:
Originally Posted by fairplay Some 13 odd years ago, I cut down a very large and dead Monterey Pine at waist height and carved a seat out of the stump with the chainsaw.
I then poured a whole can of Cuprinol over the entire seat covering every square inch right down to the ground.
One year later (if that) my only record of Pluteus atromarginatus/nigrofloccosus (with the black gill edge) popped out about 3 inches from the base.
Is this species known to be tolerant of Cuprinol ? as the base is where most of the Cuprinol ran down to, so was thoroughly soaked.
Neil. | Thats very interesting, firstly because I've never heard of Pluteus atromarginatus being creosote resistant and also because it is really a rather rare species which is rarely recorded and even less frequently vouchered ! And, some of those records may apply to P. luctuosus !
I've personally only seen it once !
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05-06-2008, 12:02 AM
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| | | Re: Unknown fungi on wood Quote:
Originally Posted by mykonik Just looked at a blown up image and the edges are distinctly notched / serrated - hence definitely a Neolentinus, probably N. lepideus (The Train Wrecker !)
But still might be worth sending to Kew !
Nick | Thats spot on Nick. The spores are a perfect fit for lepideus. Would a sample to Kew still be worthwhile?
Thanks again.
Mal | 
05-06-2008, 07:14 AM
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| | | Re: Unknown fungi on wood Quote:
Originally Posted by flaxton Thats spot on Nick. The spores are a perfect fit for lepideus. Would a sample to Kew still be worthwhile?
Thanks again.
Mal | It's been recorded several times for Yorkshire Mal, but I can't see of any records that are vouchered at Kew so probably would be worthwhile sending it - don't forget to give all collection details re: substrate, location, date etc....
And it might be worthwhile sending it as a query, saying that you 'think' it is Neolentinus lepideus rather than 'it is' Neolentinus !
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23-06-2008, 08:45 PM
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| | | Re: Unknown fungi on wood Quote:
Originally Posted by mykonik It's been recorded several times for Yorkshire Mal, but I can't see of any records that are vouchered at Kew so probably would be worthwhile sending it - don't forget to give all collection details re: substrate, location, date etc....
And it might be worthwhile sending it as a query, saying that you 'think' it is Neolentinus lepideus rather than 'it is' Neolentinus !
Nick  | Thanks Nick
Confirmed by and now vouchered at Kew
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23-06-2008, 09:09 PM
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| | | Re: Unknown fungi on wood Quote:
Originally Posted by flaxton Thanks Nick
Confirmed by and now vouchered at Kew
Mal |
Nice to know I have my uses Mal !
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