Two more from Lime Tree Avenue

[FungiJohn]

Here's two more from Clumber Park's Lime Tree Avenue. Typically solitary / few species but under several limes.

Usual apologies for taking liberties with the images





I'll leave out the 3 Russula species I found

John

[NickCantle]

Cracking images and that first one looks very familiar- Agrocybe of some sort? Anyway, only posted to tell you to stop apologising for taking liberties! It's an excellent way of showing all features with a great deal of clarity.

[endless autumn]

The second look like young Suillus luteus, but I await correction! Actually, I correct myself - they can't be if there's no conifers around, can they?

[NickCantle]

I didn't think of that- Might be too dark? I always think of Slippery Jacks to have lighter more 'tan' coloured caps rather than this 'cocoa' colour. Not sure!

[mykonik]

Originally Posted by FungiJohn

Here's two more from Clumber Park's Lime Tree Avenue. Typically solitary / few species but under several limes.

Usual apologies for taking liberties with the images





I'll leave out the 3 Russula species I found

John

The top one is a species of Stropharia - the lilaceous lamellae give it away, and distinguish it from an Agrocybe which it otherwise might be mistaken for !

However, which species of Stropharia is another matter - the pileus looks as if it was viscid which would point to Stropharia hornemannii - the problem with that (currently) is that (in Britain) S. hornemannii is strictly confined to Caledonian pinewoods (and there is only one verified record) and I think Clumber Park is a little outside that range ! It is common in Scandinavia though !

The only other thing it might (more likely ?) be is Stropharia melanosperma (but apparently immature otherwise the lamellae would be blackish) which I have never seen personally ! This was recorded (and vouchered) from relatively nearby at Coalville in Leicestershire in 2002. I should also add that there are a few other records of this from Britain, all of them dodgy and unvouchered thus just useless 'paper-records'.

If you collected it John - should go to Kew ! If not, then a lovely photograph of something that will remain unverified and unverifiable.

The lower photograph is of something immature (univeral veil still intact, thus cannot see lamellae or their colour, shape etc.) and thus not identifiable I'm afraid !

Possibly a Collybia but that's just a guess !


Nick

[FungiJohn]

Originally Posted by mykonik

The top one is a species of Stropharia - the lilaceous lamellae give it away, and distinguish it from an Agrocybe which it otherwise might be mistaken for !

However, which species of Stropharia is another matter - the pileus looks as if it was viscid which would point to Stropharia hornemannii - the problem with that (currently) is that (in Britain) S. hornemannii is strictly confined to Caledonian pinewoods (and there is only one verified record) and I think Clumber Park is a little outside that range ! It is common in Scandinavia though !

The only other thing it might (more likely ?) be is Stropharia melanosperma (but apparently immature otherwise the lamellae would be blackish) which I have never seen personally ! This was recorded (and vouchered) from relatively nearby at Coalville in Leicestershire in 2002. I sholuld also add that there are a few other records of this from Britain, all of them dodgy and unvouchered thus just useless 'paper-records'.

If you collected it John - should go to Kew ! If not, then a lovely photograph of something that will remain unverified and unverifiable.

The lower photograph is of something immature (univeral veil still intact, thus cannot see lamellae or their colour, shape etc.) and thus not identifiable I'm afraid !

Possibly a Collybia but that's just a guess !


Nick

Many thanks indeed Nick.

I have collected and dried samples of the fruit bodies. I'll send them off to Kew for their comment. Looking back at past visits I'm fairly confident of finding this again too!

John

[mykonik]

Originally Posted by FungiJohn

Many thanks indeed Nick.

I have collected and dried samples of the fruit bodies. I'll send them off to Kew for their comment. Looking back at past visits I'm fairly confident of finding this again too!

John

Good ! At least someone is catching onto this identification lark !

They look interesting John, so lets hope they are something interesting !

Nick

PS I'm talking a load of twaddle about the second one - there are no Collybia's with a universal veil so ignore what I said about the guess ! Dementia is a wierd thing !

[NickCantle]

I should have sussed Stropharia...tut tut.

[FungiJohn]

I started seriously looking at Lime Tree Avenue last year after noticing that our Clumber Park records tended to be based mainly around other compartments.

It was after the rains of last June I noticed a significant number of different species turning up all along this avenue and indeed you can expect to find something on any day of the year! Given the current weather conditions it looks like it could be a similar year.

I think it may be my 2nd home for sometime yet

John

[shroomboy]

Hi John,

I'd be interested in seeing the Russula species if you can be bothered to put them up?

Ta

Andy