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29-04-2008, 05:28 PM
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Hmm cant seem to get my pics accpeted as it wants a name and scientific name to accept them. As Im not sure of the ID I dont want to do that. Does anyone know how I can get pictures posted here withujot doing that please?
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29-04-2008, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tristain  Hmm cant seem to get my pics accpeted as it wants a name and scientific name to accept them. As Im not sure of the ID I dont want to do that. Does anyone know how I can get pictures posted here withujot doing that please?
Cheers
Tris | You may have to re upload into the unidentified section of the archive gallery. |
29-04-2008, 06:05 PM
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Kayleigh is on the ball: If you upload to the unmoderated Unidentified Fungi section of the Archive your image will be instantly available for embedding as a thumbnail into any forum post, using the Forum Code under that image.
David
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29-04-2008, 06:29 PM
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29-04-2008, 06:59 PM
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Hiya Tris 
They look like St George's to me pal |
29-04-2008, 07:02 PM
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It's the right time of year for Calocybe gambosa ( St Georges Mushroom), and your photo's show all the right features, white cap with a touch of browning, white fairly thick stem and crowded white gills.
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29-04-2008, 07:59 PM
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Thank you for the reply
Im hoping to cook em up so do you think the id is positive enough to allow me to do this with confidence? Im a cautious sort and do use a few wild foods in my diet but would rather not make a mistake with mushrooms and i guess white gills scare me a little cos of the obvious bad ones with white gills.I cant see any other smililarities tho so im hoping they are ok to eat.
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29-04-2008, 08:19 PM
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Well Tris, as much as I'd like to say yes, I couldn't. Even though we might have agreed on it, as you say, you've got to be careful  You sound like you've got the right mindset regarding fungi though mate. If you're dead set on consumption, take another photograph of some specimens in situ' and post them here |
29-04-2008, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NickCantle If you're dead set on consumption, take another photograph of some specimens in situ' and post them here | Yeah, just so we can show the coroner!! 
Only kidding, they look like them to me but it's down to you if you eat them or not. |
29-04-2008, 08:33 PM
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Tanks for the advice.
I can pop back to the wood probably friday, do you have any idea if they will still be about as im not sure how long these mushrooms persist for? One thing i have noticed about the gills is that they arent attached to the stem ans stop about 1-2 mm before it. I noticed that on the A-Z that St. Georges are listed as Emarginate is this in reference to the gill stopping before the stem? My mushroom terminology isnt that strong yet lol.
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29-04-2008, 08:39 PM
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Emarginate, (notched just before joining the the stem) it's in the book glossary.
I notice your photo's didn't show any ring on the stem, you didn't mention if they smelt mealy. (it's getting hard to think what else they may be). but i'm often wrong
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29-04-2008, 08:41 PM
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Emarginate gills are notched just before the stem joins the cap. Sinuate gills are like this too. |
29-04-2008, 08:50 PM
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I picked about 10-15 of these and none had a ring on the stem, nor was there any sign of a Volva at the base on any. The smell was unusual to me not like a standard mushroom smell but im very new to this and am only comparing to shop bought mushrooms for smell.The only other i have picked are Jews ear as im quite confident in their idetification. When i read "Mealy" I Have to admit to not being entirely sure what that would smell like anyway lol.
Cheers
Tris |
29-04-2008, 08:56 PM
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A mealy smell is an odour reminiscent of flour. It's quite a thick and penetrating smell, but once you know it, you'll know it for good. I couldn't imagine that these would be anything else. The only two that you've got to be careful of at this time of year are the two deadly white Clitocybe- C. rivulosa and C. dealbata. Another clue to St. George's is that they're rarely solitary. Often growing in rings in pastures and under hedges, they seem to grow in clumps rather tightly packed. I'm pretty sure what you've got is Calocybe gambosa, but as Stew says, it's all up to you whether you consume them.
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29-04-2008, 10:07 PM
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I have checked out the C.Delbata and C.Rivulosa and as it seems both have decurrent gills which to my understanding means they run down the stem, and the ones I have collected stop away from the stem, so Im fairly positive that they are not either of those.They did, as you mentioned, occur in groups that weren't too tightly packed.I will try to return as soon as I can to take more pictures in situ.
Cheers
Tris |
29-04-2008, 10:28 PM
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Sounds like you've got St. George's mate I look forward to photographs |
30-04-2008, 02:58 PM
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Yeah I think I am positive enough to try them as I have managed to eliminate all the baddies from the equation for various reasons.
1 Not C. Delbata or C. Rivulosa as the gills are not decurrent and the caps are Convex rather then Concave.
2 Not Death Cap or Destroying Angel because of complete absence of a ring or volval sac.Also growth seems very different as they seem to have far longer thinner stems.
3Not Yellow Stainer as the stem doesnt stain yellow upon cutting or bruising.
I hope that doesnt seem to simlplistic lol |
30-04-2008, 03:04 PM
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Why not just try a little bit first to see how you go? Let us know how you get on. |
30-04-2008, 03:09 PM
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Yep i think ill cook a couple initially, just to be on the safe side.
Hmmmm I ought to look up some decent recipes too!! |
30-04-2008, 05:09 PM
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Yep, I'm confident that they are Calocybe gambosa | | |
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