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25-11-2011, 03:53 PM
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| | | Re: Woodchip watch Quote:
Originally Posted by SheffieldLass I'm often finding it ..... well, that's a slight exaggeration ... I've found one or the other of those two 4 times in Yorkshire
Melanie | I suppose when the FRDBI is two years behind with it's records and few people are sending records to CATE (from Yorkshire at least) it is difficult to be sure how frequent or otherwise things are.
Mal | 
25-11-2011, 07:53 PM
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| | | Re: Woodchip watch Quote:
Originally Posted by flaxton I suppose when the FRDBI is two years behind with it's records and few people are sending records to CATE (from Yorkshire at least) it is difficult to be sure how frequent or otherwise things are.
Mal | Hi Mal
You can always ask the County Recorder . . . .
Melanie hasn't passed these latest records on to me yet I don't think; the other Yorkshire records of which I am aware are a 1985 one of mine from Chapel Allerton in Leeds (not yet on FRDBI - a revised dataset of all the Yorkshire records with as many of the slips which occurred during the huge transfer as possible corrected is pending), and one this May from Wharncliffe Wood, Sheffield (recorded by Alick H. on the BMS spring foray)
if you check you can see that the "Yorkshire" record currently on FRDBI is actually from Derbyshire
so yours is a very good find of - shall we say - "a rarely reported" agaric; but then again how many people look at these things, and how many of those that do will arrive at the correct name (and full marks for retaining a specimen btw)
cheers
Chris
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25-11-2011, 10:14 PM
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| | | Re: Woodchip watch Chris
It is only because there was Crucibulum alongside the Tubaria that I even stopped. Getting down close to see the dozens of Birds Nests I realized that the "fresh" dark brown Tubaria was in fact something different.
On the FRDBI I know there is a backlog of records with very few having been entered for 2010 let alone 2011. I think they were looking for volunteers to help out.
Mal | 
25-11-2011, 11:45 PM
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| | | Re: Woodchip watch Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Yeates Hi Mal
Melanie hasn't passed these latest records on to me yet I don't think; the other Yorkshire records of which I am aware are a 1985 one of mine from Chapel Allerton in Leeds (not yet on FRDBI - a revised dataset of all the Yorkshire records with as many of the slips which occurred during the huge transfer as possible corrected is pending), and one this May from Wharncliffe Wood, Sheffield (recorded by Alick H. on the BMS spring foray)
cheers
Chris | There was that P rugosa from your Stoneycliffe Woods foray last year that I identified in your dining room ... surely I gave you that record? According to my records I kept a specimen.
You won't have got this year's P filaris record from Wykeham Forest, but I think should have the P rugosa from June last year from Wykeham Forest, but will check to see where I got to with forwarding on my records. (Just checked .. you've got up to May 31 2010, so just a few days short.) I always like to have a good breathing space between id and then a second going over them with a fresh eye before I forward them on ... I've picked up plenty of bloopers that way and saved myself some embarassment, and also firmed up tentative ids.
Also you won't have got the one from Ughill near Sheffield 2007 as I couldn't decide then whether it was P filaris or P rugosa, and didn't have good literature, but now, checking all the info would say it was P filaris.
Photos and notes to follow ....
Melanie
Last edited by SheffieldLass; 25-11-2011 at 11:48 PM.
Reason: added bit about specimen
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26-11-2011, 11:02 AM
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| | | Re: Woodchip watch So these are they:
Pholiotina filaris - Ughill nr Sheffield 2007 
Spore size 7.2 x 4.3, basidia 2 spored
Pholiotina filaris - Wykeham Forest 2011 
Spore size (8.6) 8.6-9.9 (11) x (4.7) 4.8-5.4 (5.8)um
Pholitina rugosa - Stoneycliffe Woods 2010 
Spore size (8.3) 8.6- 9.3 (9.7) x (3.9) 4.5-5.5 (5.8)um
Pholiotina rugosa - Wykeham Forest 2010
No macro photos - either didn't have my camera or they were rubbish, but micro photos taken and spores measured. 
Spore size (8.6) 8.8-9.6 (9.8) x (4.6) 4.9 - 5.5 (5.7)um
Ok, so none of these were on woodchip, but for continuity have kept with this thread.
Melanie | 
26-11-2011, 02:45 PM
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| | | Re: Woodchip watch Ah well, back to woodchip - the woodchip mulch has seen a few bonnets, but also, now with the mild wetness, sulphur tuft in profusion: 
and yes , thats not a lot in the pic, but it extends over 20ft of chips...........
Interesting todays Times tells us that sulphur tuft and oysters among others are seeing a new flush, hurrrah for accurate fungi reporting. 
Cheers
Ken
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26-11-2011, 03:58 PM
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| | | Re: Woodchip watch Quote:
Originally Posted by SheffieldLass So these are they:
Pholiotina filaris - Ughill nr Sheffield 2007 
Spore size 7.2 x 4.3, basidia 2 spored
. . . . . .
Melanie | I know not everyone has recourse to a microscope, but I would seriously recommend the above as how to really look at a fungus one is attempting to identify - you can see how much time and effort can be required, but it's (usually!) worth it in the end - as I have said elsewhere, digital cameras are a boon, but they can easily make one sloppy or even lazy
and I can definitely spot a touch of "architect" there Melanie  - even in that very precise script!
great stuff
Chris
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26-11-2011, 08:15 PM
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| | | Re: Woodchip watch I only really started to get properly to grips with fungi when I sat down and did those type of detailed notes. It made me look at all the features in a very systematic way. And I really should keep making these notes - I know I've got lazy, my attention to detail when looking at fungi has slipped because I'm not still doing it. It actually didn't take me more than a few minutes to do the notes. So my November resolution is to sharpen my pencil and get the paper out ....
Melanie | 
26-11-2011, 08:21 PM
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| | | Re: Woodchip watch Quote:
Originally Posted by diggleken Ah well, back to woodchip - the woodchip mulch has seen a few bonnets, but also, now with the mild wetness, sulphur tuft in profusion: 
and yes , thats not a lot in the pic, but it extends over 20ft of chips...........
Interesting todays Times tells us that sulphur tuft and oysters among others are seeing a new flush, hurrrah for accurate fungi reporting. 
Cheers
Ken | My local woodchip piles are at full production again too. Plenty of Dog Stinkhorn, Stropharia marginata, Gymnopilus penetrans, Pluteus cervinus or its doppleganger and Psathyrella piluliformis, and a few Sulphur Tuft too.
Melanie | 
26-11-2011, 11:31 PM
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| | | Re: Woodchip watch Quote:
Originally Posted by SheffieldLass My local woodchip piles are at full production again too. Plenty of . . . Stropharia marginata . . . .
Melanie |   Hypholoma marginatum perhaps?
Chris
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