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Old 10-04-2008, 08:49 PM
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Re: Next Big challenge

Nice plug Jane
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Re: Next Big challenge

I'm only trying to increase the number of fungi records in Dorset! no harm in that is there?
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Re: Next Big challenge

It wasn't a criticism Jane
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Re: Next Big challenge

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That is just the sort of thing I was hoping for when I started this thread. Excellent.
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Re: Next Big challenge

I know, I didn't take it that way... just jesting!

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Re: Next Big challenge

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Hello all

Here is an example of what I referred to earlier. It's only a quick example but I think it may prove useful

Quick Fungi ID Chart 1



Ideally we should be looking at images showing as many characteristics as possible and I suppose even microscopic images eventually.

The charts will be in Quick Fungi Identification Charts

What do you think?

John
That's a great chart, John. BUT, the problem is whenever I have found a new fungus and tried to identify it in a similar way to the one you are suggesting (using a couple of well-thumbed little books and the Internet), I always get it wrong.

As I have found to my great dismay , the pictures tell only a tiny fraction of the full story. I am so disillusioned that I wonder whether I should even bother.

So, I am not convinced that your system will help. Or am I just completely stupid? No - don't answer that.

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Re: Next Big challenge

I'll answer it with pleasure. You're not stupid at all Jenny, the word is 'silly'. You're very silly in the fact that you have no fungi faith in yourself! I'm always getting loads wrong and they call me Mushroom boy at Uni

Perseverance and keeping it light is the key to a good night sleep when Mycology is involved.

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Re: Next Big challenge

Thanks for your comments everyone. They are much appreciated.

The main problem with this method is that when new species are found … how can they be easily placed inside an existing graphics image and still be in alphabetical order. Answer … They can’t really

What is more feasible, but unfortunately expensive in terms of programming is to change the way our A to Z works with regard to displaying images.

WAB is based on what they call a CMS … Content Management System … The whole infrastructure is based upon a designed interface. This interface deals with input, output, web page design, browser integration etc etc … It’s Huge and in many circumstances expensive. Anyway, enough of the technical jargon … we’re here for fungi

What I have planned is to batch process all our main gallery images to the correct size for a 20 image file. I shall then place them in genus order. This will mean that some pages may not be full or some may start off alphabetically and then go into random mode … that’s life I’m afraid. However a future version of our CMS may allow us to deal with this more efficiently … but don’t hold your breath

Anyway, it’s a start and I’m sure people will find it useful.

Regarding a few comments … Jenny .. you should know better

You have to remember, there are many people on here who have spent a large part of their lives learning about fungi. I don’t judge myself to be anything other than a photographer (35 years experience) and a keen amateur who forays almost 2 full days a week, every week and spends several hours each day reading about fungi and gazing down the eyepiece of a microscope …. Plus doing WAB and the occasional house work

So, just to remind you … you don’t always get it wrong and it’s good that you do bother because we all appreciate your contribution however small you think it might be. Your images are excellent too!

Best Wishes – John

Btw Please feel free to comment or make suggestions, it is always appreciated.
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So, just to remind you … you don’t always get it wrong and it’s good that you do bother because we all appreciate your contribution however small you think it might be. Your images are excellent too!
Well said John.

Can you tell from a log how many 'lurkers' there are reading this forum and not feeling able to comment. I bet there are quite a few.

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Well said John.

Can you tell from a log how many 'lurkers' there are reading this forum and not feeling able to comment. I bet there are quite a few.

Richard
Hundreds, I would imagine Richard. It's just a case of people taking that first step and not worrying about the consequences. We all have to start somewhere.

We do have an advantage on here ... We all respect each other irrespective of anyone's level.

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Old 11-04-2008, 09:05 AM
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Re: Next Big challenge

Can I just add that the Quick Fungi Identification charts are not a replacement for our excellent A to Z index. They are a separate resource all together.

It is also hoped at some point that the A to Z will be changed to accommodate similar multiple images and possibly interactive too

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