Unknown jelly

[flaxton]

I took a list of fungi I had found (or at least the ones I had managed to identify) on a local nature reserve and couldn't resist a quick look round again. Four types of mycena and a galerina amongst other things. Lots of Jelly type fungi. Jew ear, Exidia and these two which was about two inches across and I feel I aught to know and
which was an inch long and I have no idea.
Any thoughts anyone

[wildlifesnapper]

Hi

the first one looks like the imperfect stage of one of the Ascocoryne species possible A. sarcoides.
The second looks like Yellow Brain Fungus - Tremella mesenterica.

neil

[goosey]

Sorry if I am hijacking your thread but I have a weird green jelly like fungi I would love to have ID'd.
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The link is on our sister site WAW, so I hope it is OK to link to a non WAB site.

[Leif]

Originally Posted by goosey

Sorry if I am hijacking your thread but I have a weird green jelly like fungi I would love to have ID'd.
Unknown fungi -not a joke! - Wildlife Photography

The link is on our sister site WAW, so I hope it is OK to link to a non WAB site.

My guess is that it is a decomposing Tremella mesenterica. The green could be due to an algal growth, though I am really no more than guessing. They are usually white, yellow or orange. I don't think a naturally green form has ever been reported.

[Leif]

Originally Posted by wildlifesnapper

Hi

the first one looks like the imperfect stage of one of the Ascocoryne species possible A. sarcoides.
The second looks like Yellow Brain Fungus - Tremella mesenterica.

neil

Yes, I second those ids.

Ken pointed out elsewhere that A. cylichnium does not possess an imperfect stage, so the first will indeed be A. sarcoides.

[flaxton]

Thanks for that folks. I also collected a very small purple disc from another fallen tree and with your help to point the way I was able to id Ascocoryne cylichnium. The spores are much bigger than sarcoides. The photo just about shows the blue at the tip of the ascus caused by mounting the specimen in Meltzers reagent.

Mal

[Leif]

Originally Posted by flaxton

Thanks for that folks. I also collected a very small purple disc from another fallen tree and with your help to point the way I was able to id Ascocoryne cylichnium. The spores are much bigger than sarcoides. The photo just about shows the blue at the tip of the ascus caused by mounting the specimen in Meltzers reagent.

Mal

Excellent! For those who do not realise what Mal has photographed, some fungi, such as jelly and cup fungi form spores in long tubes known as asci (singular ascus), from which they are ejected when mature. Such fungi are known as ascomycetes. In the photograph an ascus is visible along with its spores, and one spore can be seen emerging on the right, though that might simply be because the ascus was ruptured when creating the section.

I thought Melzer's reagent was impossible to obtain due to the presence of a controlled drug in the formulation?

[flaxton]

Leif
For those who do not know Meltzers Reagent is a mixture of Chloral Hydrate, iodine, potassium iodide and water. The Chloral Hydrate makes the material you are examining opaque and as far as I know the iodine and iodide stain some part that you need to stand out. The ornamentation on the spores of Russula and Lactarius are the prime use.



When I first needed some Meltzers I tried the direct route and went to Boots. Although Chloral Hydrate is not a prescription drug it has some restrictions (I think it is one of the date rape drugs)and I got an extremely funny look from the girl behind the counter when I asked for some.
I finally managed to "acquire" some from a friend who is a chemist. Unfortunately the other ingredients are also not easy to source and the mixing of the parts is also critical.
Fortunately it is now readily available to members of the ABFG.
Mal

[Leif]

Cheers Mal. Another nice picture.

Psst: I suspect you accidentally typed Lactarius when you meant Russula.

[flaxton]

You suspect right.
I will try and change it.
Thanks
Mal

[flaxton]

Anyone out there how do I edit the description

[goosey]

Originally Posted by goosey

Sorry if I am hijacking your thread but I have a weird green jelly like fungi I would love to have ID'd.
Unknown fungi -not a joke! - Wildlife Photography

The link is on our sister site WAW, so I hope it is OK to link to a non WAB site.

Originally Posted by Leif

My guess is that it is a decomposing Tremella mesenterica. The green could be due to an algal growth, though I am really no more than guessing. They are usually white, yellow or orange. I don't think a naturally green form has ever been reported.

Thank you Leif, I have looked on Dutch sites and haven't found it yet either. Perhaps people in the know realise it is past it's best and don't bother taking or submitting their photos.
Thanks for thinking of a possibility for me .

[AndyC]

I was about to post a "what is it thread" when I saw this one.

Am I right in thinking my fungus is the same as the first one in this thread?
Growing on the sawn end of a beech tree trunk.




Andy

[Leif]

Originally Posted by AndyC

I was about to post a "what is it thread" when I saw this one.

Am I right in thinking my fungus is the same as the first one in this thread?
Growing on the sawn end of a beech tree trunk.




Andy

Yes, and a Stereum, presumably S. hirsutum.

[AndyC]

Thanks for the quick answer

Is it worth sticking in the fungi gallery now it's goit a name?

Andy

[Fungus Ken]

Originally Posted by AndyC

Is it worth sticking in the fungi gallery now it's goit a name?

Andy

Why not? Particularly since you have got three for the price of one. The Stereum hirsutum identified by Leif is on the right. The bracket over to the left of the photo is young Bjerkandera adusta, or Smoky Bracket, before the underneath has turned grey.

Ken

[Fungus Ken]

Originally Posted by goosey

Sorry if I am hijacking your thread but I have a weird green jelly like fungi I would love to have ID'd.
Unknown fungi -not a joke! - Wildlife Photography

Another possibility for your green jelly is old Exidia nucleata, commonly known as Crystal Brain. This is a colourless or whitish jelly-like fungus which swells up in wet weather and has small hard white crystals in the jelly. When it gets old it seems to get green algae growing in the jelly. I was out walking the dog today and there was plenty of this species around, some of which was distinctly green with algae. If you see the white crystals of calcium oxalate, this is a good clue as to its identity, but you have to look closely because they can be well hidden in the jelly.

Ken

[goosey]

Originally Posted by Fungus Ken

Another possibility for your green jelly is old Exidia nucleata, commonly known as Crystal Brain. This is a colourless or whitish jelly-like fungus which swells up in wet weather and has small hard white crystals in the jelly. When it gets old it seems to get green algae growing in the jelly. I was out walking the dog today and there was plenty of this species around, some of which was distinctly green with algae. If you see the white crystals of calcium oxalate, this is a good clue as to its identity, but you have to look closely because they can be well hidden in the jelly.

Ken

Thanks Ken for the possibility, and the explanation why . It's certainly a new angle to give thought too.

Shirley

[Leif]

I suppose Myxarium nucleatum (I guess this is the old name for E. nucleata) and Exidia thuretiana are possibles, though the latter is usually opaque white, and on Beech, so I don't think it is possible. .

Exidia nucleata usually forms distinct cushion like fruit bodies, though I suppose in the damp they could merge as per the picture. So yes, definitely a candidate.