Herbivore dung - Have a dung day!

[cybershot]

Excellent work JP - now just which do I pick for the A to Z listing for Cheilymenia fimicola

David

[CapAndBracket]

Iv'e stretched this photo a fair bit so hopefully the spines can be seen
aroung the outside of cup, these are really small (lower right, end of needle
as scale) yet have all the features of Cheilymenia.sp.

What attracted me to the dunglump was this.


I put a piece under scope expecting lots of hypha, but it was cellular in structure and quite
tough, wonder what it will turn into.

Cheers J.P.

[CapAndBracket]

Originally Posted by cybershot

Excellent work JP - now just which do I pick for the A to Z listing for Cheilymenia fimicola

David

All of them

Still need to get decent photo of fruit body in situ

Cheers J.P.

[Durrell's Roadrunner]

i have been laughed at i tell people how interesting dung is! - at last, i can see that many others appreciate it too!
hara for dung! - i never fail to stop and study dung to see whats around when i am out walking!
great thread, thanks!

[cybershot]

Originally Posted by CapAndBracket

All of them

Still need to get decent photo of fruit body in situ

Cheers J.P.

I'll bring my camera over tomorrow

The limitation with the A to Z listing is other than the main image there's only room for 3 others so which is the most significant of the micrographs?

(could possibly do a couple of combination images)

David

[CapAndBracket]

Originally Posted by Durrell's Roadrunner

i have been laughed at i tell people how interesting dung is! - at last, i can see that many others appreciate it too!
hara for dung! - i never fail to stop and study dung to see whats around when i am out walking!
great thread, thanks!

You are very welcome sir, if you manage to photo any species on dung,
post here, this thread has hardly begun as we have only scratched the
surface of the subject.

Warning, you may soon have sandwich boxes of dung cluttering up your
house, then we'll know you are hooked, enjoy.

Cheers J.P.

[CapAndBracket]

Originally Posted by cybershot

I'll bring my camera over tomorrow

The limitation with the A to Z listing is other than the main image there's only room for 3 others so which is the most significant of the micrographs?

(could possibly do a couple of combination images)

David

I can't promise finding the species but if you wanted to come over that
would be a pleasure (no pressure i think you have an appointment).

To be serious, yep i understood your question and your comments about
A to Z, from book descriptions i gess the hyaline asci and spores plus the
septate spines would be most in keeping with their information.

I have been thinking about the problem, not only for this stuff, but the like
of your fine thread on the Geastrum development. I assume we can't link
to a PDF per species but can the A to Z contain a link to a thread, then
maybe an in depth series would be good, i.e. ID Geastrum triplex, where you
have collated everthing on that speices in one thread and ask that nobody
posts to the In Depth threads (if they do FJ will edit). Just and idea

I can see making a montage of images would sort of work.

Cheers J.P.

[CapAndBracket]

Hopeing i may have found something different, they don't look to be cusion
shape or granular like Coprobia.sp and i can't see any spines, maybe an
Ascobolus.sp, must get cooking and then look at them a bit closer.

Cheers J.P.

[cybershot]

Originally Posted by CapAndBracket

(edited)

I have been thinking about the problem, not only for this stuff, but the like
of your fine thread on the Geastrum development. I assume we can't link
to a PDF per species but can the A to Z contain a link to a thread, then
maybe an in depth series would be good, i.e. ID Geastrum triplex, where you
have collated everthing on that speices in one thread and ask that nobody
posts to the In Depth threads (if they do FJ will edit). Just and idea

(edited)

Cheers J.P.

Just been experimenting with links in the A to Z under Geastrum triplex - Collared Earthstar and I'm afraid I'm not savvy enough to make the links work without copying and pasting to browser.

It would appear from this that the A to Z Earthstar link isn't that clever either

Cheers

David

PS will get to work on Cheilymenia asap

[CapAndBracket]

X1000

Looks like the orange cups are going to turn out as Coprobia granulata
after all, the paraphyses above is full of the typical granuales, book say's
flat disc to cusion shape but they must start of cup shapped so learn't
something today The asci spores were still not properly developed.

Cheers J.P.

[CapAndBracket]

Today it looks like a few Lasiobolus have emerged on old cow dung (how
long have i had this sample), trying to get some reasonable images of these,
the photo is stretched to approx 40X magnifycation (the fruit body being
less than 0.5mm diam), you can see the extent of spines.

Cheers J.P.

[CapAndBracket]

Wonder what this might turn out to be, so far have had no
conocybe on the samples.

Cheers J.P.

[CapAndBracket]

X400

Even at 400X magnifycation the spines on the Lasiobolus were longer than
scope view (> 600 um) making this Lasiobolus macrotrichus.

Cheers J.P.

[CapAndBracket]

Panaeolus semiovatus on horse buns.

Cheers J.P.

[CapAndBracket]

Abundance of Pilobolus.sp.

Cheers J.P.

[CapAndBracket]

Coprinus niveus on old cow pat.



Cap cut in half illustrating hollow stem, and notice gills have a white edge as not fully ripe.


X1000

Spores, (Richardson and Watling, size 15-19 x 8.5-11.5 x 11-13), so it depends on which face
one is looking at, elswhere shape given are ellipsoid to almond shape with germ pore.


x1000

Curious, the image above, i didn't squash the sample, just add stain and drop on cover slip then
apply immersion oil, yet some spores appeared squashed and (spore contents) appear to have taken up the stain preferentially, i wonder if these were not ripe and absorbed the stain through the germ pore and so burst due to osmotic pressure rather than being squashed.


Cheers J.P.

[fairplay]

I've experienced this too at times, forget which species, perhaps Mykonik can help us out here.

Neil.

[mykonik]

Originally Posted by fairplay

I've experienced this too at times, forget which species, perhaps Mykonik can help us out here.

Neil.

Well, the only times I experience this is when I rack the oil immersion lens down too hard and hit the coverslip heavily - which then squashes the spores underneath like this (and sometimes breaks the coverslip !)

Nick

[CapAndBracket]

Thank's for your comments, it's all interesting, i've certainly broken cover slips using them to do a squash but don't recall breaking one with the lense.

There dosen't seem to be an entry for this species in the A to Z but my images are deemed to small which seems odd as they have been perfectly large enough for web pages, emails ect.

It's easy enough to scale up i wonder why the site only scales down. I have the camera set this small as it increases number that fit on memory card, so by taking more hopefully i get a reasonable one.

Cheers J.P.

[cybershot]

Originally Posted by CapAndBracket

Thank's for your comments, it's all interesting, i've certainly broken cover slips using them to do a squash but don't recall breaking one with the lense.

There dosen't seem to be an entry for this species in the A to Z but my images are deemed to small which seems odd as they have been perfectly large enough for web pages, emails ect.

It's easy enough to scale up i wonder why the site only scales down. I have the camera set this small as it increases number that fit on memory card, so by taking more hopefully i get a reasonable one.

Cheers J.P.

Just created entry for Coprinopsis nivea - Snowy Inkcap - syn. Coprinus niveus. I transferred your images directly from Archive gallery into which you uploaded them JP. The size criteria only applies to the WAB (main) Gallery methinks.

David

PS Because of this WAB obssesion with Common Names the link to Snowy Inkcap takes you the old entry for Coprinus which I am no longer able to delete and I cannot access the categories for the new Coprinopsis entry in order to allocate the family name Psathyrellaceae. This A to Z seems to get upgrades every five minutes and as soon as you get used to one method of editing it all changes - it's becoming a pain in the butt!

Rant over

[CapAndBracket]

Thank's for the effort cybershot.

I suppose finds could get stranger in the fungi line.


X20

Found on old cow pat today in parkland, above image at 20x magnifycation,
certainly have Asci but microscopy is inconclusive at the moment, gess
they are imature, best idea of identification at the moment is some kind of
Podospora.sp., anyway they are in moist chamber to hopefully ripen for
mature spores, these could prove very interesting.

Cheers J.P.

[CapAndBracket]

Change of mind about the previous post, using the net these now seem a good match for Lasiosphaeria ovina, but i can find no reference to them on cow dung.

Cheers J.P.

[cybershot]

Originally Posted by CapAndBracket

Change of mind about the previous post, using the net these now seem a good match for Lasiosphaeria ovina, but i can find no reference to them on cow dung.

Cheers J.P.

The cows had probably been ruminating on some rotted wood JP

David