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29-10-2007, 02:52 PM
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| | | A few for ID please Had a fungi search at the weekend but im not great with fungi, have awful trouble with ID. So please could someone help me out cheers.
1. Very common in the area, in beech woodland in small groups.
2. In mixed pine woodland
3. In a pine plantation
4. In mature pine woodland
5. In mature pine woodland, on recently moved earth.
6. In mature pine woodland
7. Growing by an old tree stump (unsure of species), on a road side in farmland
Thanks alot 
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29-10-2007, 03:05 PM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please Picture 1 looks like a clouded agaric, and I think picture 3 is a Shaggy Pholiota. Not sure on the others! | 
29-10-2007, 03:12 PM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please 5. looks like Common Puffball (Lycoperdon perlatum)
6. looks like Candle snuff (Xylaria hypoxylon)
not sure about the rest | 
29-10-2007, 05:52 PM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please 1. Clitocybe nebularis.
2. Lepiota species, possibly L. cristata, common and smelly.
3. Pholiota squarrosa
4. See below. Looks interesting.
5. Possibly Lycoperdon perlatum.
6. Candle Snuff Fungus, Xylaria hypoxylon.
7. Not sure, but it might be Bolbitious vitellinus, which is not uncommon on woody debris and cow tango-uniform-romeo-delta enriched land.
Number 4 is the really interesting one. It looks like Guepinea helvelloides, which is a rare species found in Pine woods. I have never seen it, and this is a guess. I presume it was rubbery and/or jelly like? As I say, having not seen any myself, I cannot say with confidence what it is like. | 
29-10-2007, 08:54 PM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please Thanks for the ID's. Yes it was rubbery/jelly like, i thought it was an interesting looking fungi. i hope it is Guepinea helvelloides would make my day seeing a rare species. i have a shot from a different side if it would help although it doesnt seem to show any more than the shot in this thread.
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29-10-2007, 09:04 PM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please I'd agree with Leif that this (no 4) is Guepinia helvelloides (synonym Tremiscus helvelloides). The shape and colour are so unusual and distinctive that I can't think of anything else it could be.
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29-10-2007, 09:07 PM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please Quote:
Originally Posted by Fungus Ken I'd agree with Leif that this (no 4) is Guepinia helvelloides (synonym Tremiscus helvelloides). The shape and colour are so unusual and distinctive that I can't think of anything else it could be.
Ken | Cheer's ken, im hooked now, so how rare is this species? is it only assosiated with pine woodland? cheers 
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29-10-2007, 09:41 PM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please I don't know much about it, but Fungi of Switzerland says: "In damp shady places on path and street sides, as well as under shrubbery and in forests ... usually in association with buried wood".
But a word of caution. It also says: "certain Otidea species have similar forms but different colors".
The Basidiomycota Checklist says "On soil amongst grass in woodland glades, and a single collection on a spoil heap by a coal mine. ... This is a genuinely rare taxon in Britain."
The trouble with relying on photos is that you just can't be sure and it certainly wouldn't be sufficient for it to go down as a record for such a rare species. It's always possible it could have been an unusually shaped Otidea and shades of colour are not necessarily reliable in photos (or on computer screens for that matter) so I wouldn't be confident of its identification.
Sorry about that.
Ken
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29-10-2007, 09:48 PM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please Quote:
Originally Posted by Fungus Ken I don't know much about it, but Fungi of Switzerland says: "In damp shady places on path and street sides, as well as under shrubbery and in forests ... usually in association with buried wood".
But a word of caution. It also says: "certain Otidea species have similar forms but different colors".
The Basidiomycota Checklist says "On soil amongst grass in woodland glades, and a single collection on a spoil heap by a coal mine. ... This is a genuinely rare taxon in Britain."
The trouble with relying on photos is that you just can't be sure and it certainly wouldn't be sufficient for it to go down as a record for such a rare species. It's always possible it could have been an unusually shaped Otidea and shades of colour are not necessarily reliable in photos (or on computer screens for that matter) so I wouldn't be confident of its identification.
Sorry about that.
Ken |
Cheers anyway ken. Who no's. Eitherway its great to get out and see the number and diversity of fungi about at the moment 
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29-10-2007, 10:08 PM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please According to Geoffrey Kibby in the April 2007 edition of Field Mycology, this species "appears to be spreading in the UK". I am decidedly jealous of this find. | 
30-10-2007, 10:06 AM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please Quote:
Originally Posted by Leif According to Geoffrey Kibby in the April 2007 edition of Field Mycology, this species "appears to be spreading in the UK". I am decidedly jealous of this find. | Keep on looking leif im sure one may turn up. I arnt sure where abouts in the country you are i could give you details of the area it was found in. Which is owned by the national trust.
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02-04-2008, 10:35 AM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please Just to finish off this earlier thread, we have another heavyweight vote for Guepinia helvelloides from Mykonik.
Mykonik says: "Very nice !! This is Guepinia helvelloides and is VERY RARE !! Only known in Britain from a few collections near the Welsh Border (in both England and Wales) and one collection from Scotland. What a nice find !! "
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03-04-2008, 12:07 PM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please Tremiscus helvelloides (now Guepinia, grrrrr I could remember the old name ....) has a regular appearance in Dalby Forest, NE Yorks, always in the same spot. We very proud that it was the furthest North appearance but it seems to have extended its range.
Global Warming? - or just better searching?
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03-04-2008, 12:13 PM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please This specimen was found in Dalby Forest. Im glad for the further ID. Is it in the gallery or do you want me to Re-post the photo? Also is it worth sending to any recording schemes?
Was taken on the 26/10/2007 if thats any interest.
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03-04-2008, 12:23 PM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogghound This specimen was found in Dalby Forest. Im glad for the further ID. Is it in the gallery or do you want me to Re-post the photo? Also is it worth sending to any recording schemes?
Was taken on the 26/10/2007 if thats any interest. | There's no need to re-post Dogghound. It will appear in the gallery shortly ... well, sometime today anyway
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03-04-2008, 12:26 PM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please I should post the image in the main gallery, for future reference.
Alan, in the post yours, above is the Mid-Yorkshire Fungus Group recorder, so perhaps if you send him a private message with the details of the find he can add it to the records.
Ken | 
03-04-2008, 12:44 PM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please Quote:
Originally Posted by Fungus Ken I should post the image in the main gallery, for future reference.
Ken | What did I just say ... I wish people would listen to me    | 
03-04-2008, 01:11 PM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please Quote:
Originally Posted by FungiJohn | Unfortunately my mind reading skills were not up to it. I should, of course, have realised while in the middle of writing my post that you would use your moderator superpowers to leap to Dogghound's rescue. 
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03-04-2008, 01:14 PM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please Quote:
Originally Posted by Fungus Ken Alan, in the post yours, above ... | ... and that should, of course, say: "Alan in the post above yours...".
Ken | 
03-04-2008, 02:37 PM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please Quote:
Originally Posted by Fungus Ken Unfortunately my mind reading skills were not up to it. I should, of course, have realised while in the middle of writing my post that you would use your moderator superpowers to leap to Dogghound's rescue. 
Ken | dun derder der By the powers invested in me
I've another 100 or so of Nick's ID's to upload to the gallery but it does take a little time due to the different databases used. Hopefully Stu can give me some extra super, super powers to quicken the process 
Others to follow
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04-04-2008, 09:10 AM
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| | | Re: A few for ID please Cheers for using your superpowers John 
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