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Old 13-10-2007, 06:41 PM
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unknown tall, pale, thick stipe, small cap fungus

Any ideas on this weird looking toadstool?



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Old 13-10-2007, 06:56 PM
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Re: unknown tall, pale, thick stipe, small cap fungus

How incredibly strange. I found one identical today. First I've ever seen in my life and now you come on here with this That's great because I didn't photograph it

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Re: unknown tall, pale, thick stipe, small cap fungus

Weird! Hopefully Ken will come along and enlighten us both!!
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Re: unknown tall, pale, thick stipe, small cap fungus

Looks like a young Clouded Agaric - Clitocybe Nebularis.
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Re: unknown tall, pale, thick stipe, small cap fungus

Really John? The stems were brittle. Clitocybe Nebularis is a stocky agaric even when young...

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Old 13-10-2007, 09:57 PM
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Re: unknown tall, pale, thick stipe, small cap fungus

It looks very odd, but I'd say there isn't enough information in the photo for me to take it any further.

Any idea what the spore colour was and the type of gill attachment? Was it in grassland, or in woodland, growing on soil, on buried wood or might it have been mycorrhizal and if so what trees were nearby. Did it have a smell? All this type of information helps to narrow down the options.

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Old 13-10-2007, 09:59 PM
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Re: unknown tall, pale, thick stipe, small cap fungus

I feel really guilty for not documenting the one I found today.
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Old 14-10-2007, 12:23 AM
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Re: unknown tall, pale, thick stipe, small cap fungus

Sorry Ken it was too cute for me to disturb! It looked like there was a second smaller specimen just starting to appear from the grass though, so I'll take another look tomorrow if poss to try to get more info...

Was growing in lawn grass near (2ft or so) from a small dead tree stump, no idea of the type of tree it was.

I tend to agree with Nick, I found some specimens last year I thought were almost certainly Clouded Agaric and they were a lot more 'sturdy' than this. The cap on this is very small and not very thick...
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Old 14-10-2007, 03:02 PM
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Re: unknown tall, pale, thick stipe, small cap fungus

Here's a couple more shots of the cap. I had a sniff today, doesn't really smell of anything much...




I brought one home in case I need to chop it up for ID! (There was a second smaller speciment evident today).
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Old 20-10-2007, 06:39 PM
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Re: unknown tall, pale, thick stipe, small cap fungus

A couple more pictures of this now it's fully developed;





It has a hollow brittle stem and no particular smell...

Any help?
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Old 20-10-2007, 07:29 PM
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Re: unknown tall, pale, thick stipe, small cap fungus

Those last pictures confirm what I thought it might be, namely Oudemansiella radicata, or Rooting Shank. The distinct wrinkles on the cap are the clincher. I don't think anyone could make an id from the first picture.
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Re: unknown tall, pale, thick stipe, small cap fungus

Yes, now it has developed you can see some of the characteristic features of Xerula radicata, Rooting Shank.

But this is one you can identify in the field if you remember to dig carefully around the base of the stem and see how far down it "roots" into the soil. It's not strictly a root of course.

It grows on buried wood and when it's time to reproduce it sends up the thick white "root" through the soil until it reaches the surface where the mushroom develops. If the wood on which the fungus is feeding is quite deep in the soil the "root" can be very long.

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