Bernard Matthews Bird Flu link to Hungry

[Gill Catton]

I think Thailand produces a lot of chicken in worse conditions than our battery farming, I think we get that only in cooked chicken products though. It's a sad truth but I think when the ban on battery farming in the UK finally comes in, many will just shift their demand to the east. Sadly the welfare and the food miles will be worse

[Garden Carpet]

I have several pieces of chicken and turkey in my freezer... I think i am going to bin them. Have slowly been going off them anyway... which is why they are in the freezer still. After reading all the above and other items i think i will be better off without them. Cant even feed them to the doggies.. one is allergic to it. I dont buy BM but if one does it no doubt others do too.
jaki

[Kayleigh]

Whats going to happen if all this contaminated meat is in landfill. I may be over reacting but its somthing to think about. What will happen if people who have eaten BMs product start to be ill because he has not come clean. Its been two weeks now and we are no closer to knowing the truth. Its only a matter of time before we know the full scale of this imbecels mistakes he should be deported to Hungary.

[Garden Carpet]

and buried up to his neck in processed turkey bits

[Re-search]

I am not in favour of blaming Bernard Matthews for an outbreak of bird flu in the UK or anywhere else.
Bird flu is a global problem and more likely to be linked to climate changes than not.

[Gill Catton]

Originally Posted by Re-search

I am not in favour of blaming Bernard Matthews for an outbreak of bird flu in the UK or anywhere else.
Bird flu is a global problem and more likely to be linked to climate changes than not.

How do you link it to climate change?

Plus currently it's only a problem along certain species migratory routes and irresponsible poultry trade routes

[Kayleigh]

As far as I know no wild bird has been found dead in the UK with bird flu. Recently. There has been no carcasses found to have bird flu. Apart from the one swept up in Scotland a while ago. Don't you think its a coincidence BM is importing dead carcasses from his factory in Hungary where bird flu is prevalent. No where else has bird flu been found in the UK in the wild bird population..
He also had an outbreak of H5N1 in his factory in the UK a few years back according to country file this morning. That was Hushed up. No dought he is trying the same now.

[nightshade]

The government will not ban turkey meat from Hungry I wonder why

[Re-search]

Linking bird flu to climate changes is easy in theory but difficult for me to prove.
If wild birds or poultry should be subjected to abnormally low air pressure they might suffer decompression sickness. This means that disolved nitrogen would be released into the blood and oxidation, a form of poisoning, would occur. The bird/s concerned would lose immunity to infection and suffer metabolic failure. One small bird could easily infect a flock and leave the owner suffering from false allegations.

[Gill Catton]

Originally Posted by Re-search

Linking bird flu to climate changes is easy in theory but difficult for me to prove.
If wild birds or poultry should be subjected to abnormally low air pressure they might suffer decompression sickness. This means that disolved nitrogen would be released into the blood and oxidation, a form of poisoning, would occur. The bird/s concerned would lose immunity to infection and suffer metabolic failure. One small bird could easily infect a flock and leave the owner suffering from false allegations.

Can't help but feel that any problems relating to the birds immune system is more likely to be associated with living in such overcrowded condition - presumably they are deep littered too so end up living on their own filth so that probably deosn't help much.

The point is with bird flu is that it is totally tracable - they can even identify strains particular to a small locality that's how they can work out where outbreaks are likely to be associated with. That's also how they discovered it was being spred by wild birds too because outbreaks of a very particular strain were occuring along the migration routes of particular types of birds around the time that the birds were moving.