Doggy Pooh Bag Invasion...

[Mike Jackson]

Originally Posted by Lance Morgan

Woodland Trust ban dogs except on a lead please.

So once again someone screams ban the responsible majority instead of policing the irresponsible minority. I don't pick up in remote areas as I'm not happy with the idea of disposing of a natural product in a plastic bag but what I do is flick it off the path into an inaccessible area so that no one can tread in it. On my morning walks on the local green I always pick up as the whole area is walked.

Mike

[solus]

Originally Posted by Mike Jackson

... what I do is flick it off the path into an inaccessible area so that no one can tread in it. Mike

Inaccessible? What about all those fungi hunters, insect-seekers, flower and plant and moss and lichen folk (apologies if I've missed anyone!) who have to venture off the path in order to pursue their interests? We can (and do) tread in the stuff, kneel in it.... "Flicking" is also likely to result in the disgusting muck being spread over more than just the ground.


Your dog, your dog poo, your responsibility. Pick it up!

[Mike Jackson]

If an area is inaccessible how does anyone get to it to tread in it? I also hunt fungi, photograph insects etc. which requires kneeling down but not in inaccessible areas as I can't get to them. I always have a pocket full of bags but don't agree with bagging up a natural product for incineration if it can be dealt with safely in another manner.

There are inconsiderate dog owners about but there are a lot more inconsiderate litter bugs about. More than once the dogs or I have suffered an injury on a smashed glass bottle.

[Pat]

Originally Posted by Mike Jackson

If an area is inaccessible how does anyone get to it to tread in it? I also hunt fungi, photograph insects etc. which requires kneeling down but not in inaccessible areas as I can't get to them. I always have a pocket full of bags but don't agree with bagging up a natural product for incineration if it can be dealt with safely in another manner.

There are inconsiderate dog owners about but there are a lot more inconsiderate litter bugs about. More than once the dogs or I have suffered an injury on a smashed glass bottle.

Good post Mike

[BigAl]

Dog Pooh trees (reminds me of the 'jonnie trees' of my youth), litter louts, chucking 'dog-ends from cars.... the list goes on. Unfortunately we appear to be living in a degenerate society. Our fellow Brits seem to have little pride, either personal or national. I wish I knew what the answer was. As a teacher, I regret t say it probablyt isn't education. We have been delivering excellent sex education lessons for years, yet have the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Europe. I remember a commentator in the Daily Mail once writing (and making the comparison with Sex Ed.), 'If only they taught swearing in schools. Then perhaps the younger generation would forget how to swear'.

[BloomingMarvellous]

The people who do this are what I call " half do gooders " they don't really care about the environment, but they want others to believe that they do.


A couple of weeks ago whilst walking in the woods I saw a dog doing it's business right on the pathway, the owner of the dog told me as we walked by that this was the downfall of owning a dog. I reckon she would of just left it If we hadn't turned up.

[camo]

Hi

I haven't posted on this thread but have read and share the disgust of those who have posted. By choice I watch wildlife where others do not go however I do visit wood where this is a real problem.

The people that do this are not in anyway do gooders and they do it knowing they are condemning the countryside to years of pollution. I do not beleive any one who does this is even trying to fool themselves that they are being thoughtful. When they leave home they take with them plastic bags, when they bag it it is simply to pretend to those around that they care, there deceit is then compounded as they fling it when they think they are not being watched. I wonder if they ever walk there again and feel the shame they deserve when they see their hanging momenta. These people are the lowest of the low and I will have no hesitation in photographing them and providing evidence against them given the chance.

By choice even though it may be me who kneels or steps in it I would rather someone does as Mike says and moves the unbagged pooh to an inaccessible area where it will break down than decorate my world.

Roy

[Vectisbirder]

Originally Posted by BigAl

Dog Pooh trees (reminds me of the 'jonnie trees' of my youth), litter louts, chucking 'dog-ends from cars.... the list goes on. Unfortunately we appear to be living in a degenerate society. Our fellow Brits seem to have little pride, either personal or national. I wish I knew what the answer was. As a teacher, I regret t say it probablyt isn't education. We have been delivering excellent sex education lessons for years, yet have the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Europe. I remember a commentator in the Daily Mail once writing (and making the comparison with Sex Ed.), 'If only they taught swearing in schools. Then perhaps the younger generation would forget how to swear'.

That thought has occurred to me as well. It seems that pride and respect have gone down the toilet and people don't give a damn about anyone else or anything else.

A prime example of this was a few years ago on the ferry between Southampton and Cowes. On the outer decks I encountered a bloke with a small boy who he was encouraging to throw litter over the ship's side. When I remonstrated - politely - with him his attitude was 'so what, it's not hurting anyone'. I pointed out to him that, in fact, it hurts maritime life, is unsightly and totally unecessary. I also pointed him in the direction of - prominent - notices stating that it is an offence to throw litter off the ship's side and also asked him what kind of example he thought he was setting the toddler he had in tow. He just shrugged and walked away. What sort of stupid thick attitude is that to take? Stupid t**t!

[solus]

Perhpas more places should follow Torbay's example and use shock-tactics (as well as fines of up to £1,000!) to force people to clean up after their mutts!

From the BBC News website today:
BBC NEWS | UK | England | Devon | Child 'eats' dog mess in shock ad

Shocking posters apparently showing a child eating dog's mess are being credited with a big clean-up on Torbay's streets.
Councillor Dave Butt, cabinet member for community services, said that dog mess had more than halved from about 400 incidents in April to 185 in June.
He also said there had been no complaints about the posters.
The campaign by Torbay Council featured a hard-hitting image appearing to show a young child eating dog faeces which they found in a playground.
Mr Butt told BBC News: "The poster was rather unpleasant, but helped drive the message home very forcibly.
"We did not have any complaints, but we did have people ringing us to say it was about time and they were pleased we went in so hard."

[Lance Morgan]

Originally Posted by Mike Jackson

If an area is inaccessible how does anyone get to it to tread in it? I also hunt fungi, photograph insects etc. which requires kneeling down but not in inaccessible areas as I can't get to them. I always have a pocket full of bags but don't agree with bagging up a natural product for incineration if it can be dealt with safely in another manner.

There are inconsiderate dog owners about but there are a lot more inconsiderate litter bugs about. More than once the dogs or I have suffered an injury on a smashed glass bottle.

Mike
Off the beaten path would be a better description. I frequently go off the well trodden pooey path to look at something that might be interesting or photograph. More often than not there is the dreaded dog S*** waiting to be trodden in stinking mess. They even leave the bags hanging on trees or even the main gate so they don't have to take it home. . Litter is a different issue altogether as I am sure most people would be conscious of the fact that it is frowned upon and might attract comments if they are seen. The problem is where I walk on Woodland Trust plantation most dog owners know that bagging is not policed and that is why they go there. They let the dogs off the lead and away it goes to do its business often in the carpark. Of course they are not going to run 50 meteres after it to pick the mess up. Some of them drive miles to get there just so as they don't have to pick up the mess. That causes more pollution with their 4x4 full of mutts. The odd bit here and there would not be a problem but this is happening day in and day out. The same people coming in droves with their horrible dogs bounding around all over the place and doing the same circuits as nauseum. To be honest I have now left them to it and I will write to the Trust about it. Maybe dog owners would do better to police those owners who do not do not clean up after their dogs.
Natural degradation is not an excuse. In bulk it is a filthy ghastly mess and causes pollution and infections for some unfortunates not to mention the litter from all those dreaded plastic bags used to contain it.

[Mike Jackson]

The problem is that even in areas where it's policed there are still irresponsible owners. I live on a road leading to a large green space. The pavement will be clean when we go to bed but when I take the dogs out first thing it will be covered. Unfortunately the Wardens don't seem worried about this and seem more concerned with making their presence known and hassling the people who are clearing up.

Mike

[Mr Speckler]

My bad animal wants to know where your xexexexe goes?

Probably no harm to the environment at all.

If only we had more animals with computators.

Sanctimonious xexexexexe.
Speckler

[Mr Speckler]

Hi Max,

It just goes down the toilet and then it is gone forever.

No harm is done.

My bum smells of peaches.

Guess we are cool.

Stoopidexexexexexex

[jenniferjane]

Yes, it happens here too. Sometimes on the footpath at the side of my house, once I put up a note and then got a bag of pooh thrown through my shed window. Mind you today for a change there is a supermarket trolley in the woods! Taking a photo - if you can catch them is a great idea, what about making a hide - not for bird watching but for pooh droppers?

[zan]

on a slight aside, our council have recently been sending out dog-poo wardens to spot fine anyone who doesn't pick up after their dog. Can't say it's made an enormous difference in our local park yet, but hopefully it'll help eventually.

[BloomingMarvellous]

Been to my favourite park in Leeds today and guess what I found?



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[Kreacha]

Originally Posted by BloomingMarvellous

I'd love to catch someone in the act, I'd run after them shouting " Excuse Me, I think you've left something behind, and hand over the DoggyBag,

A couple of weeks ago my sister-in-law did just that..... and got punched in the face!!! and bit by the dog who had taken the dump on her lawn!!