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20-05-2008, 08:46 AM
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| | | Chelsea Flower Show Bans Patio Heaters I heard that the Chelsea Flower Show organisers have banned any exibitors from using patio heaters as part of their displays and also banned their sale at the show as they want it to be enviromentally friendly, but what about Chimineas etc surely they also give off alot of fumes | 
20-05-2008, 09:28 AM
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| | | Re: Chelsea Flower Show Bans Patio Heaters An example of another stupid over reaction, if true. | 
20-05-2008, 09:59 AM
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| | | Re: Chelsea Flower Show Bans Patio Heaters Quote:
Originally Posted by Tormentil An example of another stupid over reaction, if true. | said so on the telly so must be
I have since googled the story and it is indeed true and in many of the papers and some news web sites and Euro M.P's back a call that all patio heaters be banned, although someone pointed out that they produce less carbon if used correctly than a plasma screen telly so are they going to be banned as well.
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20-05-2008, 11:59 AM
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| | | Re: Chelsea Flower Show Bans Patio Heaters I'm sure the transportation of the displays from other parts of the country or indeed world is more detrimental to the environment than patio heaters.
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21-05-2008, 12:16 PM
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| | | Re: Chelsea Flower Show Bans Patio Heaters Why don't we ban breathing! That would cure everything
Quite frankly I am getting sick of listening to green, reactionary zealots! I await the return of the Inquisition as the way things are going that's only just round the corner.
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21-05-2008, 01:18 PM
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| | | Re: Chelsea Flower Show Bans Patio Heaters Quote:
Originally Posted by Seajay Why don't we ban breathing! That would cure everything
Quite frankly I am getting sick of listening to green, reactionary zealots! I await the return of the Inquisition as the way things are going that's only just round the corner.
Colin | Its hardly reactionary or overzealous not to want people to unnecessarily try to heat the outdoors - which is essentially what a patio heater does. If you want to stand outdoors on a cold evening put another jumper on - its not exactly rocket science.
Personally i applaud chelsea for taking this step but would like to see them go further and insist plants are sourced locally and ban the use of peat based compost.
and in reply to withams point chimneas burn wood / charcoal which is carbon neutral (if locally sourced)
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21-05-2008, 01:37 PM
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| | | Re: Chelsea Flower Show Bans Patio Heaters I'm with Pete on this. I think that patio heaters are a truly ridiculous idea, probably the most inefficient devices it's possible to buy today and a complete waste of money.
The only thing I would add to that (and I think I said this on another thread about banning something) is that I'm opposed on principle to banning anything. If we don't want people to use patio heaters then we need to persuade them that we're right when we say that they "are a truly ridiculous idea, probably the most inefficient devices it's possible to buy today and a complete waste of money." If we can do that successfully then a ban will not be necessary.
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21-05-2008, 04:29 PM
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| | | Re: Chelsea Flower Show Bans Patio Heaters I agree on the patio heater ban.
But why have the Chelsea flower show in MAY. Where most of the plants have to be brought on in unnaturally heated conditions.
If they had the show in July the plants would grow on naturally without extra heat. | 
21-05-2008, 06:40 PM
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| | | Re: Chelsea Flower Show Bans Patio Heaters Look if you really want to be green then turn off your central heating and sit in a coat, sell your car which is worse than any patio heater (which is not for heating the world but to provide warmth to people socialising on a chilly evening though anyone with any common-sense would move indoors) then preach about green issues and banning this and that.
You here constantly about carbon footprints, wasting resources etc and see knee-jerk measures introduced that often cause more problems than were there in the first place! All conceived no doubt by car drivers, although in all fairness some will cycle with a car following behind 
What I am trying to say is worrying about completely insignificant, tiny green issues such as the Chelsea Flower Show and patio heaters is a joke! Global planning is necessary and the combustion engine the first to go. Nuclear energy is the answer and electrical engines.
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21-05-2008, 06:50 PM
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| | | Re: Chelsea Flower Show Bans Patio Heaters I think patio heaters a complete wast of time. Its nothing to do with being green. What is the point of heating the bloody air. I get cold so I put a fleece on in the garden. You wouldn't even feel the heat from one these things what's the point in that. |  | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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