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12-12-2007, 01:49 PM
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| | | Sustrans Wins the £50m Lottery Millions Sustrans has just won the competition to get £50m funding from the National Lottery's 'People's Millions' project. They have received funding to improve local travel in 79 communities by creating new walking and cycling routes for everyday journeys across the UK
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12-12-2007, 02:45 PM
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| | | Re: Sustrans Wins the £50m Lottery Millions I know nothing about this organisation, but I do hope they spend the money on the 79 communitee projects and not on red tape. As I said on another thread I'm sure the 47 wildlife trusts could have spent a million pounds each on worth while projects, and still have change.
I look forward to a nice new cycle path to use some where near me.
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| | | Re: Sustrans Wins the £50m Lottery Millions Excellent news! They got my vote over the weekend and I think they thoroughly deserve this funding award. | 
12-12-2007, 05:16 PM
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| | | Re: Sustrans Wins the £50m Lottery Millions Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Wobble Dagger I know nothing about this organisation, but I do hope they spend the money on the 79 communitee projects and not on red tape. As I said on another thread I'm sure the 47 wildlife trusts could have spent a million pounds each on worth while projects, and still have change.
I look forward to a nice new cycle path to use some where near me.
BWD | THe red tape shouldnt actually cost sustrans much as most of the cost of cycle path creation orders etc will fall on the councils / highway agencies concerned - with sustrans mainly putting the money into route improvement on the ground and also promting the new routes
my only doubt about this is that I hope they apply some common sense to what they try to designate as cycleways as I have seen some projects where people (not necessarily sustrans) tried to create cycleways by redesignating footpaths that are too narrow for the purpose.
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12-12-2007, 05:38 PM
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| | | Re: Sustrans Wins the £50m Lottery Millions I find that Sustrans do have common sense and what they have already achieved over the past 10 years is absolutley tremendous as a charity! It's the whether the councils have the common sense to put work with Sustrans make these endeavors work. Brilliant news-Well done Sustrans once again!!!!!
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12-12-2007, 06:57 PM
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| | | Re: Sustrans Wins the £50m Lottery Millions I wasn't aware of this competition - I'm not a telly person ...
Great stuff if it's creating new tranport facility although I sometimes worry that Sustrans might be taking the pressure off of motorists and authorities to make ordinary roads usable by cyclists.
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12-12-2007, 07:47 PM
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| | | Re: Sustrans Wins the £50m Lottery Millions Fair point!
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12-12-2007, 08:17 PM
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| | | Re: Sustrans Wins the £50m Lottery Millions Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul mabbott IGreat stuff if it's creating new tranport facility although I sometimes worry that Sustrans might be taking the pressure off of motorists and authorities to make ordinary roads usable by cyclists.....  |
Paul's point is spot on - I was a keen cyclist for many years (racing and recreational, as well as commuting to/from work on an average of 3 days per week for 10 years and in all weathers).
There's no doubt what so ever that as off-road cycle paths have become increasingly common (and, as Pete says, with many of them being poorly designed and even more dangerous than the roads), the attitude of many motorists - especially the so-called 'professional' drivers (eg. taxis, buses and lorries) towards any cyclists having the audacity to use ordinary roads has become much more aggressive.
Whilst cycling I have suffered both verbal abuse and many near misses as a result of such aggression and this eventually resulted in my decision to give up cycling completely several years ago.
Cycle paths do little to improve Road safety - if only motorists respected cyclists rights to use the roads, gave them adequate room when overtaking and perhaps even gave them similar respect to horseriders, then our roads would be a much safer place for all concerned and then we wouldn't have to spend so much money trying to get cyclists off the roads completely.
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12-12-2007, 08:25 PM
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| | | Re: Sustrans Wins the £50m Lottery Millions Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffH Paul's point is spot on - I was a keen cyclist for many years (racing and recreational, as well as commuting to/from work on an average of 3 days per week for 10 years and in all weathers).
There's no doubt what so ever that as off-road cycle paths have become increasingly common (and, as Pete says, with many of them being poorly designed and even more dangerous than the roads), the attitude of many motorists - especially the so-called 'professional' drivers (eg. taxis, buses and lorries) towards any cyclists having the audacity to use ordinary roads has become much more aggressive.
Whilst cycling I have suffered both verbal abuse and many near misses as a result of such aggression and this eventually resulted in my decision to give up cycling completely several years ago.
Cycle paths do little to improve Road safety - if only motorists respected cyclists rights to use the roads, gave them adequate room when overtaking and perhaps even gave them similar respect to horseriders, then our roads would be a much safer place for all concerned and then we wouldn't have to spend so much money trying to get cyclists off the roads completely.
Jeff | the trip into town though on route 45 where i live is quieter less aggressive far more wildlife to be seen  and you can do it at your own pace. The point i was making is that cyclists could be giving over to the ever increasing car numbers and been rammed off the roads=the Co2ers to shine.
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12-12-2007, 11:33 PM
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| | | Re: Sustrans Wins the £50m Lottery Millions If it's anything like the so called cycle paths around here, it could end up being a right waste of money. Our wonderful Councils brilliant cycle path scheme is to paint a line down the existing walkways, dividing them in two.
The hilarious parts on one stretch is they suddenly change sides, so for half a mile your cycling on the right, then you're supposed to cycle on the left for the rest. Of course, there's no barriers between the walkway and the cycle path, so it's a really clever safe plan.
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