Environmental concerns ignored.

[Adam Cheeseman]

I know this will probably offend anyone outside of the southeast, but in this technological age in which we live why can't the majority of offices be based around the rest of the country seeing as we have video conferencing and the like.

Incidentally, does anyone have any idea what the population of this country would actually be wiithout the immigrants?

Cheers,

Adam

[Interpreter]

Originally Posted by Adam Cheeseman

Incidentally, does anyone have any idea what the population of this country would actually be wiithout the immigrants?

Cheers,

Adam

I am told that it was around 300,000 when Stonehenge was built.

My daughter, who lives in NZ, tells me that British emmigration is effecting the house prices where she lives.

If you go to the department of national statistics, there is a database where you can find out how your surname rates in the general scheme of things. Mine is way down the list. I believe that Smith has been usurped by Pattel.

[Cotham Marble]

Originally Posted by Adam Cheeseman

Incidentally, does anyone have any idea what the population of this country would actually be wiithout the immigrants?

Taking immigation over the last fifty years, there would probably now be just a few million left as most of us would have died because Health and other essential services would have been undeliverable without immigrants to do the essential work that native Britishers were either incapable or unwilling to do.

Of course going farther back - there's the Hugenots, the Flemish, the Normans, the English (no that can't be right) ..........

CM

[Jez]

We have immargrants picking onions in fields near by so less intensive. How many brits would want to do jobs like this? Thats the crux!

[Adam Cheeseman]

I think at any given time in the past (pre1980s or possibly even later) before we had our comfortable ways of life and mod cons people wouldn't have batted an eye-lid. How many people go on hop or fruit picking holidays now compared to say 40 years ago, not many I bet. The problem is that so many people have now lost all connection with countryside and working the land (by that I mean as low scale as growing veg in your own back garden) that it is completely alien to them and beyond their comprehension that anyone would actually want to do it. Furthermore, you only have to look at how kids don't know where their foodstuffs come from. I used to do educational groups and was discussing how their cereals were made from wheat and that it was a type of grass. One kid piped up that he thought that his breakfast cereal came from chickens! Why? Because there is a picture of a cockerel on the Kellogg's box. The other oft quoted example is the child who when asked where milk comes from said, "the supermarket".

Cheers,

Adam

[Meles meles]

Originally Posted by Jez

We have immargrants picking onions in fields near by so less intensive. How many brits would want to do jobs like this? Thats the crux!

No it is very true, So many jobs, we english would not do, or rarely you find one doing=

Kitchen porters
street sweeping, (the english tend to be on vehciles, out of the weather)
Potato, fruit farms etc
Ready made meals ((did this once, did youknow it takes an average of eight people to prepare these, 1 on carrots 1 on meat 1 on potato, well you get the picture) Same for many cakes etc)
Hospital cleaning and similar.
drink bottle caps, Someone has to put them on.
Foods for planes

The list goes on, When you consider this, there are so many day to day things we take for granted, Someone is doing them.

As i Said before I thinkits great that this country can offer people a chance to "build or better their lives"