Fuel Saving Magnets???

[No.9 Spider]

I've noticed quite a few adverts for magnets that are fastened around fuel supply lines on vehicles, both diesel and petrol. This allegedly makes the vehicle fuel efficient.
Typical advert says - "Basically untreated fuel tends to clump together due to the attraction of molecules, so when the cylinder burns the fuel it is inefficient. This effect will cause your engine to not use the fuel as it could, i.e. decrease in performance, lower mileage and often carbon build up.

Powerful magnets allows these clumps of fuel molecules to be charged with a single polarity, this means the molecules repel of each other which results in the fuel dispersing more efficiently allowing a "complete" combustion. This in turn results into a better fuel consumption, extra power and a lot less carbon build up!":

So, opinions or facts please!

[eeyore]

Its utter pseudo scientific xexexexe - there is absolutely no reason that hydrocarbon molecules would be effected by magnets placed on the fuel pipe, or that they would "clump together" , or that any such clumping would effect the burn rate.

[Meta menardi]

Originally Posted by No.9 Spider

I've noticed quite a few adverts for magnets that are fastened around fuel supply lines on vehicles, both diesel and petrol. This allegedly makes the vehicle fuel efficient.
Typical advert says - "Basically untreated fuel tends to clump together due to the attraction of molecules, so when the cylinder burns the fuel it is inefficient. This effect will cause your engine to not use the fuel as it could, i.e. decrease in performance, lower mileage and often carbon build up.

Powerful magnets allows these clumps of fuel molecules to be charged with a single polarity, this means the molecules repel of each other which results in the fuel dispersing more efficiently allowing a "complete" combustion. This in turn results into a better fuel consumption, extra power and a lot less carbon build up!":

So, opinions or facts please!

Not an advert I have ever seen yet, but that is so funny. Don't do this but petrol is quite inflammable and doesn't seem to leave little crispy chunks behind. It just goes "wummmppppphhhh". If it did clump, why would this make more carbon? Isn't carbon the result of combustion? ( one of).

Where have you seen these adverts?

I do understand that you are only commenting, and don't for a moment think you are trying to say it is true. I would love to see this in the wild, so to speak.

[Lancashire Lad]

With the possible exception of an incredibly weak diamagnetism effect as the fuel passes across the magnetic field, there would be no effect whatsoever. And, if you care to delve into diamagnetism, you would quickly appreciate that such effect (in this case) would be so near to being zero, there could be no possibility of "unclumping" the fuel's molecules. (Even if we turn a blind eye to reality, and accept that they were clumped in the first place ).

If such devices acually worked, they would already be incorporated as standard by vehicle manufacturers, who would then be able to enhance the performance figures quoted for their vehicles.

However, if you send me £29.99, I will send in return, details of a guaranteed failsafe method of improving fuel economy, which requires no installation work, will improve performance immediately, and for the whole duration of the vehicle's life - which I can safely say, will also be increased as a result.

OK - I'm feeling altruistic. I will let you into the secret for free. - Never fill your fuel tank more than half full - The weight of fuel that you are not now carrying around means that the vehicle needs to do less work, and thus will travel further for a given amount of fuel - Genius!!!

OK, that might be a tad over the top, but performance will be maximised by removing any surplus items that usually travel around in the boot, but which don't really need to be there, and of course ensuring that the tyres are in good order and properly inflated to manufacturers recommended pressures.

Regards,
Mike.

[Jim Ford]

Even if the "clumps of fuel molecules" could be magnetised, they couldn't "be charged with a single polarity". You can't get all norths or all souths - they can only exist as pairs of norths and souths. So if the fuel molecules _could_ be magnetised, the tendency to clump would actually be increased!

(BTW 'No. 9 Spider' why are you concerning yourself with this? I thought your mate had invented a system that enabled a car to run on water, which would render all hydrocarbon based fuels obsolete!)
;^)

Jim

[No.9 Spider]

Originally Posted by Jim Ford

Even if the "clumps of fuel molecules" could be magnetised, they couldn't "be charged with a single polarity". You can't get all norths or all souths - they can only exist as pairs of norths and souths. So if the fuel molecules _could_ be magnetised, the tendency to clump would actually be increased!

(BTW 'No. 9 Spider' why are you concerning yourself with this? I thought your mate had invented a system that enabled a car to run on water, which would render all hydrocarbon based fuels obsolete!)
;^)

Jim

Not really concerned aside from the obvious 'blag' by the sellers. Came across the ads when browsing on fleabay last night. It's gone a bit quiet on the mate's water powered car though. Having managed to go from 5 cars and 3 motorcycles to 1 car and a motorhome lately, the insurance saving should offset the fuel costs.

[bigdave60dog]

Originally Posted by No.9 Spider

I've noticed quite a few adverts for magnets that are fastened around fuel supply lines on vehicles, both diesel and petrol. This allegedly makes the vehicle fuel efficient.
Typical advert says - "Basically untreated fuel tends to clump together due to the attraction of molecules, so when the cylinder burns the fuel it is inefficient. This effect will cause your engine to not use the fuel as it could, i.e. decrease in performance, lower mileage and often carbon build up.

Powerful magnets allows these clumps of fuel molecules to be charged with a single polarity, this means the molecules repel of each other which results in the fuel dispersing more efficiently allowing a "complete" combustion. This in turn results into a better fuel consumption, extra power and a lot less carbon build up!":

So, opinions or facts please!

Not sure about the effect on fuel but I would not want a powerful magnet round my engine management computor.

[John_M]

Originally Posted by bigdave60dog

Not sure about the effect on fuel but I would not want a powerful magnet round my engine management computor.

Best get rid of that starter motor then

[nigel_b]

Good thread. I give you one word.....

Broquet.

Or three...Broquet fuel catalyst.

[bigdave60dog]

Originally Posted by John_M

Best get rid of that starter motor then

Nooooh! That`s not the way it works.
Dave