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Old 20-06-2008, 09:41 PM
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Energy Bills up again

So weve been told on the news to expect another price rise this August of up to 40 per cent on household heating bills, thats on top of the price increases we have already had this year , gas ,electricity, oil, solid fuel. so how are people going to afford to put their heating on this autumn? I call it a recession not a credit crunch sheila
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Old 20-06-2008, 09:56 PM
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I know, and the opposition parties always moan about it but when they get into office do they bring them down - no chance.
The tories slated Labour's stealth taxes. Bet they don't abolish them when they get in. Reduce fuel prices - no chance.
I honestly don't know why I vote at elections as one party seems as bad as the other.
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I don't know about anyone else but I'm off to drive a Shell tanker
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I don't know about anyone else but I'm off to drive a Shell tanker
Well if you get behind that tankers wheel bring me a gallon or 2 Ill give you a couple bob. thanks sheila
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Well if you get behind that tankers wheel bring me a gallon or 2 Ill give you a couple bob. thanks sheila
A couple of bob these days will only get you about a thumble full I'm afraid
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I know, and the opposition parties always moan about it but when they get into office do they bring them down - no chance.
The tories slated Labour's stealth taxes. Bet they don't abolish them when they get in. Reduce fuel prices - no chance.
I honestly don't know why I vote at elections as one party seems as bad as the other.
I know why I don't vote ron - its cos they are all a bunch of liers cheats and theives out to line there own pockets without exception - now why don't I stop beating about the bush and say what I mean I don't like politicians - can you tell?!!! I wouldn't give any one of them a pot......... and I wouldn't spit on any one of them if they were on fire..........

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Not something I have ever done before, but I am reading a book about politics, specifically the damage Thatcher did to the country, her party, the people and so on (very unbiased). The amazing thing to me is the way that even people close to her, hostile to her and fairly neutral all describe whatever happened purely in terms of strategy. Never "upholding a deeply felt sense of right ot wrong", but always "so I/she/they voted that way to stop He/she/it from doing something". Very dispiriting.
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Just a thought, wonder if the raving loony party would actually make a better job, ;-)
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Two years ago, when wholesale energy costs were falling, I got a letter from Powergen telling me that they were putting their prices up. Here's the letter I sent to Nick Horner, MD of Powergen in response...

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Dear Sir,

I am in receipt of your letter dated September 2006 advising me of the increases in gas and electricity prices that took effect on 6 September 2006.

This letter opens with the sentence "You may be aware that wholesale energy costs are continuing to rise". On the contrary, I am perfectly well aware that wholesale energy costs have fallen substantially over the last few months and are predicted to fall further still in the next few. Jessica Bown writing in the Sunday Times of 17 September 2006 says:

"The price of gas for winter delivery in the wholesale market… has fallen by a quarter over the past four months as supply problems have eased – and electricity costs have plummeted 30 per cent."

As managing director of one of the UK's largest energy suppliers I find it impossible to believe that you were not aware of these facts and can only conclude that you have chosen to open your letter with a bare-faced lie.

As a consumer I am absolutely sick and tired of being continuously ripped off by unscrupulous, inefficient, greedy and incompetent utility companies. I switched to Powergen from British Gas / London Electricity because I was tired of being taken for a mug but now I find that I'm still seen as nothing more than a cash-cow to be milked until dry. And treating me like an imbecile by expecting me to believe your ludicrous assertion that "energy costs are continuing to rise" is simply adding insult to injury.

Please supply me with a full and detailed justification for your outrageous decision to raise retail prices while wholesale costs are plummeting. On receipt of this I will consider whether or not to lodge formal complaints with Offgem and/or the Office of Fair Trading.

Yours in disgust,
Needless to say it achieved nothing, except making me feel slightly better for a good spleen venting. (And no, I didn't write it in green biro! )

I wouldn't mind them raising our bills when wholesale energy costs rise if they also dropped their prices when wholesale costs fall. But they don't. When Powergen finally got round to reducing it's gas and electricity bills, after falls in the wholesale cost of more than 60%, they did so by 13% for gas and less than 1% for electricity. Now that wholesale costs are going up again they're passing on the full increase to consumers. Scumbags!

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I know why I don't vote ron - its cos they are all a bunch of liers cheats and theives out to line there own pockets without exception - now why don't I stop beating about the bush and say what I mean I don't like politicians - can you tell?!!! I wouldn't give any one of them a pot......... and I wouldn't spit on any one of them if they were on fire..........

Pauline

Very usubtle Pauline and very true Hearing that Gordon Brown had claimed for light bulbs. Then another MP and his wife claim money back for paying rent on a house that they actually own turned my stomach.

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