Water Powered Cars & Planes

[gfilmsuk]

''Thousands of successful water-conversions around the world are proof that this technology works and will soon catch on! Some industry insiders say its just a matter of time before this water-burning technology will be standard in new automobiles. One expert estimates most cars will be using this technology by 2012'' Web Quote.

I get sick and tired with hearing about all these new fangled alternative fuels. Waste cooking oil, sugar-beet fuel, all of which are designed to make somone a fat profit, and the list goes on and on. I read on the net the other day that British farmers are now growing more bio fuels than they are food because the profits are better.
We already have a free fuel on this planet, it's called water.
Water fueled engines have been around for years, and work, if you don't believe me just Google 'water powered cars'.
Gordon Brown would have done better to invest the 50M he's giving to China to help them combat global warming, in developing for us all a free fuel. Or am I just being very naive in thinking he has the countries best interests at heart?
Forums are full of people whingeing and whining about this that and the other but very few are prepared to do anything about it instead they put their faith and trust in people like Gordon Brown, and then moan about it!
I propose we as a nation make a stand against rising fuel prices and seek water as a natural/alternative fuel, how? By doing nothing. That's right, nothing. Next Monday everyone in the country stay at home, bring the land to a standstill and you don't even have to walk to London, you can do it from the comfort of your own warm and dry living room.
Are we prpared to do it? I doubt it, because we are a nation of moaning talkers, and not doers. This debate about fuel costs and alternative fuels will still be going on this time next year amidst even higher fuel costs.

Dave

[Garden Carpet]

Out of interest Dave, do you have a water fueled car.. or water fueled anything? If so..it would be interesting to know where and how you acquired it? How freely available is it?
Many thanks
Jaki & henrya

[eeyore]

there is only one teeny weeny tiny flaw with this plan ..... its total and utter oooooooo

Yes water can be divided into hydrogen and oxygen and the hydrogen then burnt this much is true - however simple physics tells us that the energy that has to be applied to seperate the H2 from the O would be equal to that generated when the two are combined.

and thats assuming that you get 100% efficiency in both directions which you dont.

so basically you take your energy (normally as electricity) apply it inefficiently to generate hydrogen (wasting arround 25%) and then you fuel the car with hydrogen - a highly explosive and compustible gas (remember the hindenburg anyone)- also inefficiently - losing arround another 25% of the initial energy budget and shortening the life of your engine, yeah sure wilbur

wouldnt it make more sense to just use the electricity to run the motor at low speeds- as is done with hybrid models ???

Fuel cell technology does have its place - for example in storing energy generated from variable alternative sources , but the car sure as heck isnt it.

[gfilmsuk]

Fantastic effort to baffle with science, but the proof of the pudding...
There are over 70,000 web-sites discussing water powered cars plus hundreds and hundreds of videos. There are over 2 million sites dealing with converting water to power. If the sytem is flawed, then why are there so many cars already driving round the world powered by water? If all these water powered vehicles suffered from serious flaws, as you suggest, then this doesn't make sense.
The problem with water power is not will it work or not as it's already been proven without doubt, the problem is who stands to make any money from it, certainly not the oil companies.
Dave

[Ukwildlifeo]

Originally Posted by gfilmsuk

Fantastic effort to baffle with science, but the proof of the pudding...
There are over 70,000 web-sites discussing water powered cars plus hundreds and hundreds of videos. There are over 2 million sites dealing with converting water to power. If the sytem is flawed, then why are there so many cars already driving round the world powered by water? If all these water powered vehicles suffered from serious flaws, as you suggest, then this doesn't make sense.
The problem with water power is not will it work or not as it's already been proven without doubt, the problem is who stands to make any money from it, certainly not the oil companies.
Dave

When you have to use fossil fuels to convert the water into hydrogen its kind of pointless...

Plus Id hardly call what Eeyore said and attempt to 'baffle with science' mearly an explanation of WHY it is flawed. Hydrogen cars are prototypes and toys for the eccentric until we develop a way of extracting hydrogen efficiently

[Bub-les]

I came across this a while ago

Water Car Run on WATER+Fuel. Hydrogen Save Gas=FREE ENERGY!

what do you think

[gfilmsuk]

In 1805, Swiss inventor Isaac de Rivaz was the first to make a car powered by an internal combustion engine. But what did the engine use as fuel, since gasoline wasn't invented till the 1870s? Amazingly, the first ICE automobile ran on the HYDROGEN extracted from WATER!

That's right, something that we can't seem to do now was done on a wooden-bodied car just five years after two British scientists discovered how to break up water using electric current! Is it because rainwater is free?
Surely 200 years of technological advancement has given us the ability to improve on something done so long ago!
You can read more here at; Water Car Inventors
Then tell everyone it's all bunkum.
Dave

[m1.carson]

Hi,

Just read the site and am not terribly impressed, water for fuel maybe, but bible bashing at the end is a no-no, as he say's "a fruitcake will answer the phone".

Battery power seems to be the way it's going, 150mph capable cars with only a two hour charge, mobile phone/laptop batteries that you fill with water, etc.

People see conspiricies everywhere, look at the everlasting lightbulb .

Max.

[Paul mabbott]

Quite so.
Why not - Ben Goldacre: Free energy? It doesn't measure up | Comment is free | The Guardian
Where would the brainless be without the web ....

Originally Posted by eeyore

there is only one teeny weeny tiny flaw with this plan ..... its total and utter oooooooo

Yes water can be divided into hydrogen and oxygen and the hydrogen then burnt this much is true - however simple physics tells us that the energy that has to be applied to seperate the H2 from the O would be equal to that generated when the two are combined.

and thats assuming that you get 100% efficiency in both directions which you dont.

so basically you take your energy (normally as electricity) apply it inefficiently to generate hydrogen (wasting arround 25%) and then you fuel the car with hydrogen - a highly explosive and compustible gas (remember the hindenburg anyone)- also inefficiently - losing arround another 25% of the initial energy budget and shortening the life of your engine, yeah sure wilbur

wouldnt it make more sense to just use the electricity to run the motor at low speeds- as is done with hybrid models ???

Fuel cell technology does have its place - for example in storing energy generated from variable alternative sources , but the car sure as heck isnt it.

[Paul mabbott]

Okay, it's all bunkum.

Originally Posted by gfilmsuk

In 1805, Swiss inventor Isaac de Rivaz was the first to make a car powered by an internal combustion engine. But what did the engine use as fuel, since gasoline wasn't invented till the 1870s? Amazingly, the first ICE automobile ran on the HYDROGEN extracted from WATER!

That's right, something that we can't seem to do now was done on a wooden-bodied car just five years after two British scientists discovered how to break up water using electric current! Is it because rainwater is free?
Surely 200 years of technological advancement has given us the ability to improve on something done so long ago!
You can read more here at; Water Car Inventors
Then tell everyone it's all bunkum.
Dave