Black pupa in webbing.

[JRsbugs]

This one I found under a Camellia leaf, 25th May. Checked since and found the web only. I think it was around 7-8mm long. Hope this is not too difficult but might be interesting! It was also near an Oak tree.

Janet

[charlieb]

I can only find one reference to a British species feeding on Camellia (Homona menciana - The Camellia Tortrix ), sadly no photos or further information - it's not on ukmoths so I'm assuming it must be quite rare!

Could be any of the polyphages really - identifying from pupa, especially micro moths is, as you say, interesting!

[JRsbugs]

Originally Posted by charlieb

I can only find one reference to a British species feeding on Camellia (Homona menciana - The Camellia Tortrix ), sadly no photos or further information - it's not on ukmoths so I'm assuming it must be quite rare!

Could be any of the polyphages really - identifying from pupa, especially micro moths is, as you say, interesting!

Thanks charlie, seems I am in rare mode, lol! I'll look it up and look around.

[JRsbugs]

I found the name to be a synonym of Homona coffearia, I have used this site before, and have a few tortrix moths from last year so will have to check them out just in case I have mis-ID'd one!

Arthropods of Economic Importance - Eurasian Tortricidae > Species: Homona coffearia (Tea tortrix)

Of course 'tea' is Camellia! I have lots of Camellias.

[JRsbugs]

I guess that one's out, distribution is: India; Sri Lanka; China; Thailand; W. Malaysia; Java; Brunei; Sabah; Sarawak. Lowland to montane.

[charlieb]

Originally Posted by JRsbugs

I guess that one's out, distribution is: India; Sri Lanka; China; Thailand; W. Malaysia; Java; Brunei; Sabah; Sarawak. Lowland to montane.D

It is on the British list, but quite possibly from a single specimen!

[JRsbugs]

Originally Posted by charlieb

It is on the British list, but quite possibly from a single specimen!

Lol, looks like we're in with a chance then with another rare one!

[JRsbugs]

I checked my pics taken this year, have one tortrix from 19th February which I haven't got around to trying to ID yet. It has white eye shaped marks on the wings with a darker patch on the outer edges.

[JRsbugs]

The Carnation Tortrix Cacoecimorpha pronubana looks like the black pupa, it feeds on a variety of plants and flies may to June which fits too!

Any clues to the moth I posted?

[charlieb]

Originally Posted by JRsbugs

Any clues to the moth I posted?

Nope

Closest I can get it to is subfamily Tortricinae - maybe Clepsis consimilana but I wouldn't bet on it!