Bad science ....

[treecreeper]

On the subject of scientific illiteracy, did anyone see the story last week about the 'green' supermarket that was generating electricity for the tills from ramps at the vehicle exit? Cars drove over the ramps which generated the power. Wow! Energy from absolutely nothing! A fundamental law of physics disproved!

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by Hobjob

Bullseye - I deeply sorry to hear that you child had a nasty reaction to an MMR jab; you don't tell us the long term sequelae though.

Errmm......severe autism, for life.

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by Paul mabbott

Yes, indeed very well studied especially by John Eddy who died last week.
John A. Eddy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - however neither Eddy nor any other serious scientist suggested that solar activity was responsible for recent climate change.
Planetary warmth correlates with solar activity to an extent; but sunspots do not correlate with the continuous and acceleratingwarming tendency that we are witnessing.

Check out this ? http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpre...dy-minimum.png

[Meta menardi]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

Yes,my bad,I did'nt check out the available info first (though not a lot was available at that time), I was more naive 15 years ago,have since learned never to trust any sort of "authority".
And I'll take your post as an attempt at humour,hopefully directed at me and not the unfortunate disability inflicted on my son ?.

I addressed it to you, not in any way at your son. You have my deep sympathy for his disability.

[Digit]

It's actually one of the longest continuous records on weather Bullseye, and unlike some of the more suspect temps that have been recorded in the past, not really open to much in the way of errors.
Way back it was noticed that sun spot activity mirrored the price of wheat in England due to the harvests being affected.

Roy.

[eeyore]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

Check out this ? http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpre...dy-minimum.png

hmm - so since circa 1980 sunspot activity is trending down but in the same period global temps are trending up. congratulations, i think you have just disproved your own argument.

[Digit]

According to some reports eeyore world temps are down to late 80s level.

Roy.

[Bullseye]

Think you'll find temps are going down for the last 10 years !.

[Digit]

And I offer this, please note that the writer quotes his sources...

CO2 lags temperature - what does it mean?

...unlike some reports.

Roy.

[eeyore]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

Think you'll find temps are going down for the last 10 years !.

not according to the IPCC data - that shows both the yearly average temperature and the five yearly average temperature increasing by nearly a degree celcius in the period 1980 -2009 - hence the melting ice and lack/sloth of reforming of sea ice.

now of course it depends on who you believe and i'm sure there is "data" out there that is contrary to the IPCC findings, particularly on websites funded by those with a vested interest in denying that anthropogenic global warming is happening.

but my money is on the IPCC data being more accurate.