Get rich quick-global warming.

[gfilmsuk]

Paul, you, and I suspect many others have not understood what I've been saying. Why I don't know, could I have made it any clearer? The clue is in the title, 'Get rich quick'. I strongly object to the way business uses GW as a way of making money. I am not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone over a report.
Dave

[Mr Mag00]

that is the nature of business, i suspect some would not do it if there is no money in it, however if it pushes technological change for the reduction in use of fuels and pollutants i am all for it.

[Paul mabbott]

Originally Posted by gfilmsuk

Paul, you, and I suspect many others have not understood what I've been saying. Why I don't know, could I have made it any clearer? The clue is in the title, 'Get rich quick'. I strongly object to the way business uses GW as a way of making money. I am not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone over a report.
Dave

Then I suggest you re-read your first mail - regarding a scam defined ( scam - Definitions from Dictionary.com ) as a confidence trick, a lie. Implying that "global warming" (by which I read anthropogenically enhanced climate change) has been invented by these businesses purely to make a profit.

I have responded earlier that these people resisted the idea and are only belatedly coming to grips with it - saving themselves money rather than exploiting anything. Also, I do find the term 'get rich quick' applied to IBM and similar companies rather silly - they've been "getting rich" for many years now!

So, if you're against capitalism object to it properly, don't be irrelevent. Perhaps you should be going to London to protest on that topic, it's been done before - Wat Tyler and the Peasants Revolt

[matt_xyz]

Originally Posted by gfilmsuk

Paul, you, and I suspect many others have not understood what I've been saying. Why I don't know, could I have made it any clearer? The clue is in the title, 'Get rich quick'. I strongly object to the way business uses GW as a way of making money. I am not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone over a report.
Dave

But the link in your original post was nothing to do with money making, more to do with global warming itself being a scam.

I note it was written by a software developer who now teaches English in China

Matt

[eeyore]

Originally Posted by gfilmsuk

Paul, you, and I suspect many others have not understood what I've been saying. Why I don't know, could I have made it any clearer? The clue is in the title, 'Get rich quick'. I strongly object to the way business uses GW as a way of making money. I am not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone over a report.
Dave

What buisness ? - as stu pointed out higher up the industrial lobby spend an enourmous ammount campaigning to say that climate change isnt happenin / or that it is not anthropogenic

the idea that the buisness lobby are scamming money from promoting global warming is imo absolutely without foundation and patently ridiculous.

The industries you mentioned in response to stu are actually largely losing money due to GW - Insurers for example will have far more payouts due to the summer floods , and will lose clients as property becomes uninsurable , construction companies will suffer from tighter building code to withstand more floods , storms, etc.

No one is getting rich quick from GW , but a great number of people may get dead quick if it isnt taken seriously.

[tristanba]

Hi Dave,

Global warming has been documented by scientists for the last 20 years - it is only the actions of influential climate change naysayers (all of whom have a common and vested interest in the oil industry) that have suppressed its appearance on the political agenda for so long!

This, to my mind, is the only 'scam' associated with global warming.

Now that there is (at last) wider concern by world leaders and members of the public regarding climate change, of course businesses will respond to this. The market simply has not been there until now. How is this a bad thing and how is it a scam???

Tristan

[eeyore]

Talking of scams - check out the home page on the website gfilms posted to kick this off.

this is what they have to say about themselves.

Free Republic is the premier online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America. And we always have fun doing it. Hoo-yah!

so thats a completely unbiased source with no funding from the american right or anyone with a vested interest in the oil industry then

[Mr Mag00]

hahahaha ^ nice

[coasty]

Originally Posted by gfilmsuk

Paul, you, and I suspect many others have not understood what I've been saying. Why I don't know, could I have made it any clearer? The clue is in the title, 'Get rich quick'. I strongly object to the way business uses GW as a way of making money. I am not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone over a report.
Dave

How else is business supposed to tackle it,,,, A business is there to make money,,Hopefully a profit,,If it doesnt make money it ceases to exist... Seems pretty straightforward to me...

Andy

[oneworld]

For all the arguments from both sides of this debate and diatribe directed at each other throughout the dabate - the post form StuartDH has finally given me faith in humans again.

Thanks Stuart. If for nothing more than giving what should be come a standard way of thinking and one that I would have expected almost everybody on WAB to follow.

Jas

[tristanba]

And that puts this thread nicely to bed. Thank you Jas

[Coley]

Originally Posted by gfilmsuk

I noticed yesterday the way the comments were going, rudeness, sarcasm and even childish private conversations between buddies in an attempt to sabotage the thread.
I'm sure this is not the way forward.

I get that some times, but that is part of starting something that you don't fully understand. What sadens me most is that some of the articals you have read, either in the past or recently, has managed to covince you that climate change is not real. I wonder how many other people have also be fooled. Most of the pages you get on Google are made up of listings that contain only one of the words you have entered, say for example 'climate', there are so many texts that contain that one word alone. So your comparisons are false. I have in the past learnt a bit about the chemical chain reactions that can only lead to global warming speeding up on its own accord, but only if humans continue to fuel the furnace. Once we get to the point of no return the earth will release its hidden methane and co2 supplies (bottom of the ocean and dead frozen carcases) which will in turn warm up the earth even further. We will not be able to stop this. We will be doomed. Also, you have mentioned that the earth has warmed and cooled in the past many times. Do you know why? Well in some cases it has been due to Metiors, super volcanoes (Yellowstone national park has one) and the suns intencity to name a few. A bit catastrophic if you ask me, that would have wiped us out alone.