steps to stop global warming

[forfi]

Originally Posted by tameblackbirds

Do you really see this as 'bickering' surely it's a depate and generally debates get heated.That to me is 'healthy' and being able to argue your corner is what has helped to make 'global warming' the issue it is today. As to wasting your time, tell me, what better time wasting than reading an interesting debate on this Great Forum and I include all areas on this sight. All you have to do is agree, dis-agree, research further to add to the debate or simply go to another area of the forums.

Thanks for that post I don't expect everyone to agree with all or indeed any of my views but I have done the work,the research starting from an instinctive smelling of many rats in the IPCC carry on,specially as Gore is now making $10million per annum from his adventure. So I will challange anyone who tries to impoverish this world any further with pipe dreams .I have seen poverty first hand in India, Borneo and other places.I have shared food with people too poor to share,does that make sense?

[tameblackbirds]

Yes defietly you are obviosly very passionate about the subject.

Wondered will you be watching 'Climate change' 9 'o clock BBC2 Iian Stewart tonight?

[forfi]

Originally Posted by tameblackbirds

Yes defietly you are obviosly very passionate about the subject.

Wondered will you be watching 'Climate change' 9 'o clock BBC2 Iian Stewart tonight?

Drat,missed it ,I'm feeding son and pals and dog and locking up and diving in and out of forums but I'm sure it will on a utube or podcast or whatever on the web again

[almostnormal]

okay...sorry i'm a bit new to this thread...but the original thing was about the steps we can take to prevent global warming right? I'm presuming what we're actually all talking (or sneering/bickering) about is climate change yes?

right, so the evidence isn't conclusive BUT when you read a lot of the journal articles out there - science direct have lots of freebie abstracts and you can get a good range of eclogical/climmate change articles and peer reviewed papers on google academic - most of them will agree that although global warming (ie the phases of tropical to ice age and back again) are a natural process, the levels of methane and CO2 are rising at a much much quicker rate than they ever have before (and there are a number of glacier studies available online for those who want to dig them out) causing the warming phase to happen at a more accelerated rate than eco-systems are used to.

there are probably loads of reasons for this, but the fact remains, that even if (and i'm with matt on this one, i know where my money is) we aren't to blaim (which we probably are) we should have a lot more respect for our environment than we currently do. so...the addage is reduce, reuse, recycle. think about where the resources you use everyday are coming from and how to reduce your carbon footprint. its all going to save natural resources and money in the long term. switching to led spots for exmaple, getting more efficient appliances, driving small cars, walking or cycling more, switching appliances of at the plug, not the standby button, properly insulating your house, growing your own veg, buying local produce (helping farmers and the environment) and seasonal goods, using sustainable bags not carriers, getting milk from the milkman in glass bottles which are reused...the list is endless...and it all helps in the long run.

[eeyore]

Also regardless of whether GW is anthropogenically influenced or not oil (and to a less urgent extent coal) are definitely running out , this in an incontrevertible fact. even more pressingly before exhaustion of supply we will (soon) reach a peak oil situation (ie one where demand outstrips supply rocketting the price up).

therefore the steps taken against GW - which are nearly all related to reducing our carbon footprint- will be valuable whether the argument for anthropogenic climate change is correct or not because carbon based energy sources (with the exception of wood, biofuel, and biomass) will not be with us forever

[forfi]

Most definitely so eeyore,we have to step up our use of wave and tidal power [ a very predicable and reliable alternative ] But conservation of all our resources is vital.Too late now I fear for nuclear power in the UK as the baby has been thrown out with the bath water so new interconnectors with Europe are becoming vital.I bet this winter will see the first widespread blackouts if it is a cold one.