Is Global Warming a Natural Phenomenon?

[andyc123]

Agree with dragonfly really in that I think it is part of a natural cycle. Yes we may well contribute but I think we can sometimes get a little carried away (certainly when convenient) in how important we think we are in the grand scheme of the planet. The forces of nature are quite capable of putting us right back in our place as they have demonstrated several times over recent years.

Taking this further is a tricky one, as I doubt that anyone on here at least would wish to use this as an excuse to damage the planet, on the other, more cynical hand, as is mentioned, it is an excellant root cause for a new tax!

[RantingSquirrel]

Originally Posted by gfilmsuk

The only proof that evolution offers is that God has a sense of humour and if evolution is real why do mothers still only have one pair of hands?

You have got to be kidding. There is the fossil record for evolution, sediment core samples and rock strata all 'evidence' for an Earth billions of years old. How do you think we get fossil fuels? Its compacted biomass.

Even some of my (very) devout Catholic friends accept that the old testiment is probably more about symbolism than fact. The Garden of Eden, with a vegetarian T-Rex, living in harmony with humans (what the creationism museum claims)? Give me a break.

Can you please point us to the book which you claim proves evolution is not real? (and please do not say the bible).

[Ukwildlifeo]

Originally Posted by RantingSquirrel

Can you please point us to the book which you claim proves evolution is not real? (and please do not say the bible).

Thre are plenty of books on creationist science (an oxymoron if there ever was one!) but there all about a scienitifically accurate as the chronicles of narnia

[Meta menardi]

Originally Posted by Ukwildlifeo

Thre are plenty of books on creationist science (an oxymoron if there ever was one!) but there all about a scienitifically accurate as the chronicles of narnia

Let's burn "The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe".

And I am getting rid of that wardrobe upstairs.

[gfilmsuk]

Evolution is not a good theory—it is just a pagan religion masquerading as science.
Answer these Ranting Squirrel and I think you've got the break you're looking for.

1. Where did the space for the universe come from?
2. Where did matter come from?
3. Where did the laws of the universe come from (gravity, inertia, etc.)?
4. How did matter get so perfectly organized?
5. Where did the energy come from to do all the organizing?
6. When, where, why, and how did life come from dead matter?
7. When, where, why, and how did life learn to reproduce itself?
8. With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?
9. Why would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kind since this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of survival? (Does the individual have a drive to survive, or the species? How do you explain this?)
10. How can mutations (recombining of the genetic code) create any new, improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books.)
11. Is it possible that similarities in design between different animals prove a common Creator instead of a common ancestor?
12. Natural selection only works with the genetic information available and tends only to keep a species stable. How would you explain the increasing complexity in the genetic code that must have occurred if evolution were true?
13. When, where, why, and how did: a) Single-celled plants become multicelled? (Where are the two- and threecelled intermediates?) b) Single-celled animals evolve? c) Fish change to amphibians? d) Amphibians change to reptiles? e) Reptiles change to birds? (The lungs, bones, eyes, reproductive organs, heart, method of locomotion, body covering, etc., are all very different!) How did the intermediate forms live?
14. When, where, why, how, and from what did: a) Whales evolve? b) Sea horses evolve? c) Bats evolve? d) Eyes evolve? e) Ears evolve? f) Hair, skin, feathers, scales, nails, claws, etc., evolve?
15. Which evolved first (how, and how long, did it work without the others)? a) The digestive system, the food to be digested, the appetite, the ability to find and eat the food, the digestive juices, or the body’s resistance to its own digestive juice (stomach, intestines, etc.)?
b) The drive to reproduce or the ability to reproduce?
c) The lungs, the mucus lining to protect them, the throat, or the perfect mixture of gases to be breathed into the lungs?
d) DNA or RNA to carry the DNA message to cell parts?
e) The termite or the flagella in its intestines that actually digest the cellulose?
f) The plants or the insects that live on and pollinate the plants?
g) The bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or muscles to move the bones?
h) The nervous system, repair system, or hormone system? i) The immune system or the need for it?

[StuartDH]

...and if god made us, who made god?

Seriously, let's not have this turn into a big religious debate...it's one of the rules that we don't allow on the forum. Please keep things on topic.

Thanks

Stu

[eeyore]

Originally Posted by andyc123

Agree with dragonfly really in that I think it is part of a natural cycle. Yes we may well contribute but I think we can sometimes get a little carried away (certainly when convenient) in how important we think we are in the grand scheme of the planet. The forces of nature are quite capable of putting us right back in our place as they have demonstrated several times over recent years.

Taking this further is a tricky one, as I doubt that anyone on here at least would wish to use this as an excuse to damage the planet, on the other, more cynical hand, as is mentioned, it is an excellant root cause for a new tax!

I too agree that global warming and cooling is a natural phenonemen , however the accelerated warming since the industrial revolution is not - and while the "planet" will undoubtedly survive this anthropogenically inspired blip, there is somewhat more doubt that homo sapiens will - and while the exitinction of homo sapiens as a species might not be a bad thing for the planets ecosystem as a whole it isnt a route that i fancy taking.

[Ukwildlifeo]

Originally Posted by StuartDH

...and if god made us, who made god?

Seriously, let's not have this turn into a big religious debate...it's one of the rules that we don't allow on the forum. Please keep things on topic.

Thanks

Stu

awww spoil sport

[eeyore]

Originally Posted by Ukwildlifeo

awww spoil sport

lol - its a pointless argument anyway - we all know that in reality the universe was sneezed out of the nose of the great green arklesezure

[agrumpycow]

Originally Posted by eeyore

lol - its a pointless argument anyway - we all know that in reality the universe was sneezed out of the nose of the great green arklesezure

What the flip is the arklesezure