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Old 23-03-2007, 06:42 PM
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Angry 'We want this baby polar bear dead' say animal rights lobby

Have you seen the following: -
We want this baby polar bear dead' say animal rights lobby

'We want this baby polar bear dead' say animal rights lobby | the Daily Mail

The bear should live!
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Old 23-03-2007, 07:09 PM
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Re: 'We want this baby polar bear dead' say animal rights lobby

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Have you seen the following: -
We want this baby polar bear dead' say animal rights lobby

'We want this baby polar bear dead' say animal rights lobby | the Daily Mail

The bear should live!
I read this too........Polar Bears are a declining species but this bear will not be able to help increase numbers as the bear will not be able to intergrate with other bears. That being said, the bear is here, he survived and which breed to you stop at when it come to hand-rearing - it's unnatural in all breeds.
Possibly it would have been kinder to let nature take it's course when the mother rejected but it's too late now and no healthy animal should be put down because it doesn't 'fit'.
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Old 23-03-2007, 07:15 PM
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Re: 'We want this baby polar bear dead' say animal rights lobby

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I read this too........Polar Bears are a declining species but this bear will not be able to help increase numbers as the bear will not be able to intergrate with other bears.
its far from certain that he wont be able to fit in - other bear species (vis the spectacled bears in peru) have been hand reared and still been able to integrate with their wild reared brethren.

also if he survives to maturity he will be able to be a sperm donor for Artificial insemination programmes - virtually all polar bear captive breeding uses AI as the potential for the partners to injure each other during natural mating in unacceptably high.

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its far from certain that he wont be able to fit in - other bear species (vis the spectacled bears in peru) have been hand reared and still been able to integrate with their wild reared brethren.

also if he survives to maturity he will be able to be a sperm donor for Artificial insemination programmes - virtually all polar bear captive breeding uses AI as the potential for the partners to injure each other during natural mating in unacceptably high.

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I didn't realise that, puts another slant on the whole story doesn't it...
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Old 23-03-2007, 08:02 PM
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Re: 'We want this baby polar bear dead' say animal rights lobby

World over, lot's of baby animals are hand reared. Why should this bear be any different ? If they had let nature take it's course then I'm sure there would have been a different band of people angry at that. You can't please everyone !
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Old 24-03-2007, 10:28 AM
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Re: 'We want this baby polar bear dead' say animal rights lobby

According to a report I heard recently, polar bears are far from being in decline, but their numbers are increasing substantially.
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Old 24-03-2007, 10:32 AM
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According to a report I heard recently, polar bears are far from being in decline, but their numbers are increasing substantially.
Found where I got the information from: Polar bears 'thriving as the Arctic warms up' | International News | News | Telegraph.

Yet again, with all aspects of "climate change" there are two sides to every story!!
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Old 24-03-2007, 01:27 PM
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Re: 'We want this baby polar bear dead' say animal rights lobby

Polar Bears are thriving despite the Climate Change. This little chap should not die just because his face doesn't fit, but what do you do with an animal which is totally unsuited to a Zoo life style.............???????
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Old 24-03-2007, 06:39 PM
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Re: 'We want this baby polar bear dead' say animal rights lobby

I am completely Torn on this... yes he is lovely and cute and doesn't deserve to die.

A polar bear normal habitats is Cold, Ice and snow with very little scorching Sunshine....
But I dont like the idea of it having to spend its Life in a zoo.. with just a small pool to swim in...

I agree with an interview i saw on TV earlier.. that if we want to save these amazing animals then maybe we should build a Sanctuary just for Polar Bears, where they can recreate a Habitat as near to their own as possible...
Doing what we think is right isn't always the right thing!!!
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Re: 'We want this baby polar bear dead' say animal rights lobby

extiction is an inevitable fact so if we want to keep species sustainable sometimes zoos are the only way that we will be able to do so.

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Old 26-03-2007, 08:33 PM
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Re: 'We want this baby polar bear dead' say animal rights lobby

there was an excellent interview on the bbc about this sat am. cant remember the guys name or his organisation. but he said polar bears dont fare well in captivity and hand reared cubs wouldnt survive in the wild so he proposed a large protected area for zoo bears but not wild release.
i know the bear looks cute but that doesnt mean when its adult it will have a good life in a zoo.
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Re: 'We want this baby polar bear dead' say animal rights lobby

If he was born in captivity, then what's the big problem??? HE has demonstrated the will to live and survive regardless of who reared him. Let him be to enjoy his life, it's not up to us to decide these things. He isn't ill, or suffering so let him be.
My moggie reared baby Hedgehogs.....she got on with it, nobody debated over it and they were fine.
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:34 AM
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Re: 'We want this baby polar bear dead' say animal rights lobby

This is ridiculous.....

Of course he should be allowed to live!!

As Pagan girl said - he's shown the will to live and survive so whats wrong with letting him do it and who are they to pass judgment?

Ive hand reared a few animals (Hedgehogs, birds etc) and sometimes there is an element of luck as to if they stay "wild" or imprint, my last infant was a wood pigeon - he would sit on your hand and eat peanuts right up to the day he "released" himself by flying out of the back door while hubby was feeding him while I was at work - we had put a coloured ring on his leg for when we were going t let him go - just to see if he would hang around, he comes to our bird table to eat and has a mate this year, but he flys away if we go outside or anywhere near the table.

I believe its a case of the basic temperament of the individual - I know its not quite the same idea but Ive had litters of feral kittens which Ive worked with and the last lot I had 3 outof 4 of the kits tamed no problem but the 4th one just refused point blank to be handled under any circumstances and eventually we lost him - he got himself so stressed out he worked himself into a fit and his heart gave out...poor little thing.....

So I say well done this little guy for making it and well done the folks who managed to rear him successfully, sometimes you have to step up and take some responsibilty - not just use the get out clause of "let nature take its course"

Oh - and where do they get off with "suffer the humiliation of being a domestic pet"????

If they are playing by their own rules and not attributing him any human qualities - how can he be humiliated?????

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