Go Back   Wild About Britain > Community > Campaigns and Petitions

» Log in

User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!

» May 2012

S M T W T F S
2930 1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31 12

» Stats

Members: 50,139
Threads: 82,300
Posts: 852,972
Top Poster: glsammy (15,069)
Welcome to our newest member, jo0ls
Reply

 

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 31-01-2011, 07:36 AM
New Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 4
Stop high speed 2!

Watch us on Countryfile STOP HS2 | BBC Countryfile – Watch it again

It’s hard to ascertain whether Mr Philip Hammond meant just the Chilterns or the whole of the line when he uttered in an interview in the Telegraph “it’s not some Constable country”.

If you watch the recent Countryfile programme featuring HS2, John Craven refers to this statement when he was discussing the potential impact on the Chilterns with the actor Geoffrey Palmer.

What did Mr Hammond mean? Well “Constable Country” is renowned as one of Britain’s finest landscape which inspired the internationally recognised painter John Constable. It is situated on the borders of both Essex and Suffolk including the Dedham Vale and Stour Valley and has legal protection as an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty (AONB).

The Chilterns AONB is described as a stunning area of protected countryside only a few miles north west of London. With rolling hills, magnificent beechwoods and charming villages. It too follows a beautiful valley containing the River Misbourne.

An Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty (AONB) is exactly what it says it is: a precious landscape whose distinctive character and natural beauty are so outstanding that it is in the nation’s interest to safeguard them.

There are 38 AONBs in England and Wales (33 wholly in England, 4 wholly in Wales and 1 which straddles the border). Created by the legislation of the National Parks and Access to the Countryside Act of 1949, AONBs represent 18% of the Finest Countryside in England and Wales.

Apart from location the classification of the two AONBs is exactly the same so Mr Hammond is either deliberately misleading those who are unfamiliar with the area or is badly misinformed. Strange for a politician who claims hill walking as one of his passions. When you check the detail on his website however he does in fact say “hill walking in Scotland”. He will benefit from HS2 then.

High Speed 2 will carve straight through the Chilterns ANOB as it forces its way through 138 miles of almost totally virgin countryside, much to the horror of anyone who cares for the environment and our heritage in this country. If they go ahead the next two legs from Lichfield to Manchester and Leeds will affect other protected landscapes in particular the Peak District National Park.

Worse still the proposed high speed 2 project is based on unsubstantiated economic and environmental claims that simply do not hold up to scrutiny.

STOP HS2 believes Mr Hammond and the government are guilty of dereliction of duty in pursuing this project and failing to protect and enhance the environment.

We need you to help us save our countryside and STOP HS2.

Please email me with any questions. Our website is STOP HS2 - The national campaign against High Speed Rail 2.

Lizzy
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 01-02-2011, 12:30 PM
Pete Collins's Avatar
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Kensworth, Bedfordshire (W/ends) and Huntingdon
Posts: 4,337
Blog Entries: 46
Re: Stop high speed 2!

Good luck with the STOP HS2 campaign.

As someone who regularly walks in the Chilterns, I am very disappointed that such a lovely area as the Misbourne valley will be ruined by the proposed route. I've added a link to the STOP HS2 web site on my own site.
__________________
I walk, therefore I am - Pete's Walks
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 21-03-2011, 02:46 PM
New Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 2
Re: Stop high speed 2!

Re: Stop high speed 2!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Lizzy ,
Love this article, i am hugely opposed to hs2 and was wondering where i could get some hard posters/placards to display outside my house , i live on a major trunk road a41 and they will be seen by 1000s of people daily
Robert
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 21-03-2011, 05:27 PM
Member of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: mid Norfolk
Posts: 404
Re: Stop high speed 2!

looking at this as a bystander, I wish the railway was still going through our little town. With very little public transport we have to own cars and pollute and use petrol. Mr Beaching did not look into the crystal ball when he did away with thousands of miles of track. The picture of the future in my crystal ball is thousands of acres of beautiful farmland will need to be used for more railways as petrol becomes as precious as gold. If we fail to let this happen people in rural areas will be reliant on farm jobs. Then how will the products be distributed?

The canals could service some transport but rail looks the more likely candidate. They may call these projects high speed but they are a step in some way of the right direction, to a reliable non road link infrastructure.

However if you oppose the plans can you offer an alternative. We do need to re invest in railways but not indiscriminately.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 21-03-2011, 06:40 PM
Paul mabbott's Avatar
Knight Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Sheffield, FPRSY
Posts: 7,655
Re: Stop high speed 2!

Strange times indeed: I never thought I'd find myself agreeing with a Tory Minister of Transport.
As he says, most of the opposition to this plan comes from people with big houses in Buckinghamshire. It is unfortunate that some people in the Wildlife Trusts have been suckered into supporting these nimbys - there should be a great rethinking by those in charge. Seeing Wildlife Trusts in bed with the Countryside Alliance is not going to attract many people to their cause.
If, as I believe is true, there are infringments on areas valuable for wildlife then these should be protested and viable alternatives suggested. One of the reasons there is so little respect for the anti-rail campaign is that they came out in total opposition to the project rather than suggesting how problematic parts might be ameliorated.
I am disappointed in several ways with the plan and I shall be making my views and counterproposals known. For instance, we should now be planning the extensions to Scotland and to France; perhaps the line would better terminate at St Pancras and thus connect with the Tunnel line or we should be planning for a second tunnel as the current one is reaching capacity. These things shouldn't be left for decades later, it's time UK transport caught up with that in the rest of the Europe.
__________________
Ladybird Survey
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 21-03-2011, 07:02 PM
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Watford, Hertfordshire.
Posts: 4,860
Re: Stop high speed 2!

You've only got to drive around some of the towns affected - Amersham, Great Missenden, Wendover and look at the big houses set in big plots, to see that the scheme will never get approved!

Jim
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 21-03-2011, 07:38 PM
Paul mabbott's Avatar
Knight Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Sheffield, FPRSY
Posts: 7,655
Re: Stop high speed 2!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizzy Williams View Post
..............An Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty (AONB) is exactly what it says it is: a precious landscape whose distinctive character and natural beauty are so outstanding that it is in the nation’s interest to safeguard them.
The problem with words like 'beauty' is that they're very subjective. In this case, there is a big argument about how much the building of a railway line would affect 'beauty' - this is an argument that has been going on for over a century.

Quote:
........High Speed 2 will carve straight through the Chilterns ANOB as it forces its way through 138 miles of almost totally virgin countryside, much to the horror of anyone who cares for the environment and our heritage in this country. If they go ahead the next two legs from Lichfield to Manchester and Leeds will affect other protected landscapes in particular the Peak District National Park............Lizzy
'virgin countryside' is nonsense. Most of the route will be through urban/suburan land, some through farmland and only a small amount through chalk upland/woodland (which is hardly virgin habitat!). This, I think, is where the nimbys are exploiting those of us interested in wildlife conservation. The damage created by railway lines is much smaller than that from roads and, after some years, will hardly be noticeable on an ecological view. So let's work to avoid damage to genuinely important (i.e. SSSIs and the like) sites by making sensible, constructive amendements to the proposed route.
__________________
Ladybird Survey
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 22-03-2011, 04:31 PM
New Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 4
Re: Stop high speed 2!

Dear All, trains can be green but not at the 250mph intended by HS2.
For stophs2 signs etc. please visit the toolbox section on our website.
I personally can not understand anyone who loves wildlife supporting HS2 whatsoever - it is bad for the environment and particularily for wildlife.
The Wildlife Trusts oppose, the Green Party oppose, Sustainable Development Comission oppose, CPRE oppose to name a few and yesterday the Woodlands Trust announced their objection also.
Save our biodiverse landscape from HS2.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 22-03-2011, 05:42 PM
Paul mabbott's Avatar
Knight Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Sheffield, FPRSY
Posts: 7,655
Re: Stop high speed 2!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizzy Williams View Post
...... trains can be green but not at the 250mph intended by HS2.
.........
So, as I suggested, your objection is to high speed trains per se? You're not interested in amending the route, saving some woods etc. You think that Nature will be best served by increased air traffic and further pressure on the road system?
__________________
Ladybird Survey
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 22-03-2011, 05:44 PM
Member of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: mid Norfolk
Posts: 404
Re: Stop high speed 2!

High speeds will be shortlived as the planet runs out of oil. Frid I cant see any way foreward except running rail down the middle of motorways.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply  

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads

Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New High Speed Rail to cut through Chilterns AONB Ed1979 Environment Forum 10 24-04-2010 09:05 AM
High Speed Gosling RobinP British Birds 4 07-05-2009 09:57 PM
High speed cameras NJP87 Photography Equipment 0 23-02-2009 04:20 PM
high speed photography nightshade Wildlife Photography 10 24-07-2006 08:45 AM

» New Wildlife Posts

Go to first new post Ladybird ID please
Last post by Normski4ash
Today 08:11 PM
2 Replies, 13 Views
Go to first new post Approx id for...
Last post by Geoff F
Today 08:09 PM
1 Replies, 28 Views
Go to first new post Small PB Frits 2012
Last post by Johnny Redgate
Today 08:09 PM
4 Replies, 46 Views
Go to first new post 2 week old baby blue tit...
Last post by Ladywell
Today 08:00 PM
24 Replies, 515 Views
Go to first new post When does the Lesser...
Last post by ChrisJB
Today 07:53 PM
25 Replies, 613 Views
Go to first new post ID please
Last post by RoyW
Today 07:51 PM
11 Replies, 216 Views
Go to first new post Tropidia scita...
Last post by Geoff F
Today 07:44 PM
4 Replies, 52 Views
Go to first new post Carp behavior
Last post by ChrisJB
Today 07:40 PM
7 Replies, 95 Views

» New Environment Posts

Go to first new post "Earth In Crisis As...
Last post by Jim Ford
Today 12:09 PM
8 Replies, 493 Views
Go to first new post Little plastic bags
Last post by Trekkie
27-05-2012 03:16 PM
9 Replies, 719 Views
Go to first new post Why Wind Won't Work!
Last post by Lancashire Lad
25-05-2012 11:17 AM
5 Replies, 363 Views
Severn Barrage (and...
Last post by zail
20-05-2012 05:32 PM
7 Replies, 626 Views

» New Activity Posts

Go to first new post Echo Meter 3 (EM3)
Last post by Gill Catton
Today 07:39 PM
1 Replies, 50 Views
Go to first new post Photography Access
Last post by Elevate29
Today 07:08 PM
9 Replies, 185 Views
Go to first new post urgent advice on which...
Last post by speaky
Today 09:05 AM
9 Replies, 372 Views
Go to first new post New Pentax Camera K30
Last post by Tringa
Today 07:31 AM
1 Replies, 127 Views

» New Community Posts

Go to first new post Ivinghoe Beacon and...
Last post by Pete Collins
Today 04:09 PM
3 Replies, 111 Views
Go to first new post Spammers!
Last post by AdrianH
Today 08:00 AM
5 Replies, 93 Views
Go to first new post Planet Earth Live ...
Last post by davedotcom
Today 07:40 AM
27 Replies, 1,206 Views
Go to first new post One click save a hedgehog
Last post by Hedgehoggy
Yesterday 09:08 PM
2 Replies, 81 Views

All times are GMT. The time now is 08:12 PM.


Copyright Wild About Britain 2009

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730 731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 836 837 838 839 840 841 842 843 844 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 883 884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 892 893 894 895 896 897 898 899 900 901 902 903 904 905 906 907 908 909 910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 919 920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929 930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939 940 941 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 950 951 952 953 954 955 956 957 958 959 960 961 962 963 964 965 966 967 968 969 970 971 972 973 974 975 976 977 978 979 980 981 982 983 984 985 986 987 988 989 990 991 992 993 994 995 996 997 998 999 1000 1001 1002 1003 1004 1005 1006 1007 1008 1009 1010 1011 1012 1013 1014 1015 1016 1017 1018 1019 1020 1021 1022 1023 1024 1025 1026 1027 1028 1029 1030 1031 1032 1033 1034 1035 1036 1037 1038 1039 1040 1041 1042 1043 1044 1045 1046 1047 1048 1049 1050 1051 1052 1053 1054 1055 1056 1057 1058 1059 1060 1061 1062 1063 1064 1065 1066 1067 1068 1069 1070 1071 1072 1073 1074 1075 1076 1077 1078 1079 1080 1081 1082 1083 1084 1085 1086 1087 1088 1089 1090 1091 1092 1093 1094 1095 1096 1097 1098 1099 1100 1101 1102 1103 1104 1105 1106 1107 1108 1109 1110 1111 1112 1113 1114 1115 1116 1117