Help My Quest

WildLife Warrior · #1 (**permalink**) 25-12-2007, 10:35 PM

Ok i feel this counts as a petition as whales are also visitors to our shores so here goes.
I am appealing to everyone who loves and adores wildlife and the environment. I am currently reaching out globally to get as many people to stand up and be counted by signing my petition. I have started a petition to ban whaling in all waters forever. As a WildLife Warrior this is my mission and i will accomplish it no matter what it takes. My passion and enthusiasm to see this through is extremely strong and i will make it happen. I want to see Steve Irwin honoured forever with this law passed. Steve wanted whaling stopped and i want to see this happen.I won't stop until it does and i appeal to everyone out there to help me. All you need to do is sign my online petition.I have several running all at once but all roads lead to Rome so to say...well all the petitions are the same and lead to one outcome. You can help me here by signing your name, county and country in this topic post so that i can add you to my online petition. This petition will eventually be taken by me in person to the UK primeminster. I will be organising a meeting with him as i feel this all needs to be done face to face. As Steve Irwin would have said....you need to stand up and shout to get your message heard and that's exactly what i plan to do. So please help me and i will be eternally grateful.

naturelover · #2 (**permalink**) 25-12-2007, 11:08 PM

hi yes i will sign your petition,tell me how to please.

WildLife Warrior · #3 (**permalink**) 26-12-2007, 12:10 AM

To join my petition please send an email with your full name, county, country and a little piece about why you feel whaling needs to be banned forever to jayjaybee01@yahoo.co.uk.

When i recieve the emails they will automatically be added to the email collection of signitures.

eeyore · #4 (**permalink**) 26-12-2007, 09:36 PM

i'm not knocking your aims , but a few points come to mind.

a) unless you are a representative of a major group (such a greenpeace), or one of mr browns constituents - I would rate your chances of arranging a face to face meeting with the PM as approximately nil

b) this being the case wouldnt you be better off setting up a petition on the downing streeet website , or indeed promoting one of the anti whaling petitions already running, or one of the ones based on the main organisation websirtes , greenpeace , IFAW etc ( a link to the iFAW website campaign against whaling can be found here http://www.ifaw.org/ifaw/general/def...17846&aid=9466 )

c) The UK doesnt do whaling anyway - so wouldnt it make more sense to target the nations that do (iceland, russia, japan principally)

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d) if you are set on doing your own , there is some evidence to suggest that the govt logs petitions from individuals as one piece of correspondence regardless of how many names there are on it - therefore it is better to provide a form letter and get people to email it to their MP or MEP individually.

WildLife Warrior · #5 (**permalink**) 26-12-2007, 10:23 PM

Points taken into account. However there are just a few little things that count to me.

A) The current groups already promoting anti whaling are doing things their way..this may or may not be the right way but i have my own ways of getting the message across and so therefore have a different way of doing things.

B) Ok Mr Brown may not meet me the first time but i can be very persistent and i will get a meeting....i am determined and have alot of faith and at the end of the day faith and determination is all i need to succeed.

C) I have the spirit of Steve Irwin behind me...one man changed the world, he showed others that all is takes is one person...just one person to stand up and shout to get the message heard and that is what i am planning to do. He had his own ways of saving animals as do i....i can and will change the current consititution no matter how long it takes for me to do it...my passion and detemination will see me through.

D) The UK as i believe is a model country...everyone looks to us for answers and in times of trouble. It takes one to lead and the others will follow.

E) Belief and hope are two of the strongest things you can ever hold and i hold them both. I will succeed and nothing is going to stop me. Did you know that Steve actually wanted to stop whaling before he died...he was planning to join the Sea Shepherd crew...he even said to Terri that they could attach a giant can opener to the back of Croc One and would go to Antartica and stop the Japanese from whaling...now that's extreme and different..and you know what...that's just the way it should be done...new ways and methods of safeguarding animals and getting the word out need to be created and he is my guiding light in this. In the short of it...nothing on this earth apart from death itself will stop me from doing this and getting things changed. I have plans..big plans and if it means travelling to different countries to spread the word then so be it.

eeyore · #6 (**permalink**) 27-12-2007, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WildLife Warrior

The current groups already promoting anti whaling are doing things their way..this may or may not be the right way but i have my own ways of getting the message across and so therefore have a different way of doing things.

Could you tell us more about you new an innovative way of doing things - not wishing to be cynical but it appears you are simply starting a petition - it would be interesting to hear how this differs from the other petitions already in progress ?

NickCantle · #7 (**permalink**) 27-12-2007, 05:04 PM

Echoed Pete, most interesting.

tufftie · #8 (**permalink**) 27-12-2007, 08:17 PM

We were doing a big campaign round here last year and the advice we were given is do individual letters - petitions only count as one no matter the amount of names. Certainly the councils, not sure about other bodies, do try and put you off doing it as it's more paperwork for them but they can't refuse them so!

Good Luck, what you're trying to do is great - but think you maybe better off trying to join forces with one of the other organisations - they'll have more clout than an individual!

WildLife Warrior · #9 (**permalink**) 27-12-2007, 09:11 PM

Eeyore yes it may appear that i am just starting a petition but the petition is just the basis of the project. Now if i was to say im planning on going out to the coast of Antartica and sinking a few whaling vessels there would be outrage on here wouldn't there.

I have my plans and they are big plans. I know what i am doing and how i am to do it. The signitures are the base. The individuals who sign the petition are also writing individual letters to accompany their signiture and these are being sent to me by email as well. The petitons are being run on several sites around the globe and i am missing out doing the local government one as they have a limit of just 200 signitures and then the petitions get closed...sorry but 200 is not going to change things.

As for the group...im a Wildlife Warrior-I belong to Steve Irwin's group whole heartedly. I have already been in contact with Australia zoo and they have told me that they have plans to start and anti whaling campaign which i can join as soon as it's running but for now i am to carry on my work. So you see i will have voices. I just have to wait for them to rise and then my plans can come into action.

It does appear to me however eeyore that you don't truly believe that one person can change the world or that people in a whole can change the world. Well i do believe and no cynacism is going to make me believe otherwise. I have belief that i can change this world...like i said...only death itself will stop me and if i have to die in the process of fighting for wildlife and the environment then so be it...yes that may be extreme but that is me inside and out.

clover green · #10 (**permalink**) 30-12-2007, 07:20 PM

You can only "dare to try" / "dare to win". Good luck, as it always takes a bit of a maverick to attempt these things.

loony · #11 (**permalink**) 04-01-2008, 02:17 PM

hi wildlife warrior , i`m new to this website and only joined on jan 3rd and people have made me welcome . i`ve been looking at other forums and saw yours and like you hate whaling and want it stopped! i`m one of steve`s wildlife warriors too so you can add my name etc to your petition --sue webster , welshgirl1032003@yahoo.com. i really admire what you are doing and hope so much that whaling can be stopped now. i`m also in greenpeace and other groups .

eeyore · #12 (**permalink**) 06-01-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WildLife Warrior

Eeyore yes it may appear that i am just starting a petition but the petition is just the basis of the project. Now if i was to say im planning on going out to the coast of Antartica and sinking a few whaling vessels there would be outrage on here wouldn't there.

I have my plans and they are big plans. I know what i am doing and how i am to do it. The signitures are the base. The individuals who sign the petition are also writing individual letters to accompany their signiture and these are being sent to me by email as well. The petitons are being run on several sites around the globe and i am missing out doing the local government one as they have a limit of just 200 signitures and then the petitions get closed...sorry but 200 is not going to change things.

As for the group...im a Wildlife Warrior-I belong to Steve Irwin's group whole heartedly. I have already been in contact with Australia zoo and they have told me that they have plans to start and anti whaling campaign which i can join as soon as it's running but for now i am to carry on my work. So you see i will have voices. I just have to wait for them to rise and then my plans can come into action.

It does appear to me however eeyore that you don't truly believe that one person can change the world or that people in a whole can change the world. Well i do believe and no cynacism is going to make me believe otherwise. I have belief that i can change this world...like i said...only death itself will stop me and if i have to die in the process of fighting for wildlife and the environment then so be it...yes that may be extreme but that is me inside and out.

but dont the individuals who sign up have the right to know what you will be doing before they associate their names with it ? for example i would have no qualms with having my name associated with a reputable campaign such as that conducted by ifaw but if you were really planning on sinking a few whaling vessels or taking other dubious forms of direct action then i would be much less happy to be associated with it.

my view is yes individuals can change the world if they act together (to whit the anti cfc campaigns in the eighties and nineties) but it is important that in doing so they stay within the law, or at least within the bounds of civilised and reasonable conduct, as to stray outside these only discredits the environmental movement as a whole and gives policy makers that much more ammunition to disregard all eco views as being extremist thus doing far more harm than good in the long run

paulchandler6 · #13 (**permalink**) 07-01-2008, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by eeyore

but dont the individuals who sign up have the right to know what you will be doing before they associate their names with it ? for example i would have no qualms with having my name associated with a reputable campaign such as that conducted by ifaw but if you were really planning on sinking a few whaling vessels or taking other dubious forms of direct action then i would be much less happy to be associated with it.

my view is yes individuals can change the world if they act together (to whit the anti cfc campaigns in the eighties and nineties) but it is important that in doing so they stay within the law, or at least within the bounds of civilised and reasonable conduct, as to stray outside these only discredits the environmental movement as a whole and gives policy makers that much more ammunition to disregard all eco views as being extremist thus doing far more harm than good in the long run

I would echo your comments eeyore. I know how the warrior feels but you need to take moderate a approach to this otherwise the politicians and policy makers will just write you off.

Paul