Help My Quest

[clover green]

You can only "dare to try" / "dare to win". Good luck, as it always takes a bit of a maverick to attempt these things.

[loony]

hi wildlife warrior , i`m new to this website and only joined on jan 3rd and people have made me welcome . i`ve been looking at other forums and saw yours and like you hate whaling and want it stopped! i`m one of steve`s wildlife warriors too so you can add my name etc to your petition --sue webster , welshgirl1032003@yahoo.com. i really admire what you are doing and hope so much that whaling can be stopped now. i`m also in greenpeace and other groups .

[WildLife Warrior]

Hi there Loony aka Sue....i will be sure to add you to the petition. It is growing steadily now and is active in 20 sites so far around the world and it has even reached the Japanese which i am glad for and they are actually signing it which is a good step forward. So far it's live in the UK, Japan, Canada, USA, Australia and New Zealand and i set up more each day.

Glad to meet a fellow WildLife Warrior on here...will be good to keep in touch..there don't seem to be many of us in the UK.

[loony]

hi wildlife warrior just seen your reply and glad you have added me to your petition . we certainly need more people to sign up and stop the destruction of the world`s wildlife .

[eeyore]

Originally Posted by WildLife Warrior

Eeyore yes it may appear that i am just starting a petition but the petition is just the basis of the project. Now if i was to say im planning on going out to the coast of Antartica and sinking a few whaling vessels there would be outrage on here wouldn't there.

I have my plans and they are big plans. I know what i am doing and how i am to do it. The signitures are the base. The individuals who sign the petition are also writing individual letters to accompany their signiture and these are being sent to me by email as well. The petitons are being run on several sites around the globe and i am missing out doing the local government one as they have a limit of just 200 signitures and then the petitions get closed...sorry but 200 is not going to change things.

As for the group...im a Wildlife Warrior-I belong to Steve Irwin's group whole heartedly. I have already been in contact with Australia zoo and they have told me that they have plans to start and anti whaling campaign which i can join as soon as it's running but for now i am to carry on my work. So you see i will have voices. I just have to wait for them to rise and then my plans can come into action.

It does appear to me however eeyore that you don't truly believe that one person can change the world or that people in a whole can change the world. Well i do believe and no cynacism is going to make me believe otherwise. I have belief that i can change this world...like i said...only death itself will stop me and if i have to die in the process of fighting for wildlife and the environment then so be it...yes that may be extreme but that is me inside and out.

but dont the individuals who sign up have the right to know what you will be doing before they associate their names with it ? for example i would have no qualms with having my name associated with a reputable campaign such as that conducted by ifaw but if you were really planning on sinking a few whaling vessels or taking other dubious forms of direct action then i would be much less happy to be associated with it.

my view is yes individuals can change the world if they act together (to whit the anti cfc campaigns in the eighties and nineties) but it is important that in doing so they stay within the law, or at least within the bounds of civilised and reasonable conduct, as to stray outside these only discredits the environmental movement as a whole and gives policy makers that much more ammunition to disregard all eco views as being extremist thus doing far more harm than good in the long run

[paulchandler6]

Originally Posted by eeyore

but dont the individuals who sign up have the right to know what you will be doing before they associate their names with it ? for example i would have no qualms with having my name associated with a reputable campaign such as that conducted by ifaw but if you were really planning on sinking a few whaling vessels or taking other dubious forms of direct action then i would be much less happy to be associated with it.

my view is yes individuals can change the world if they act together (to whit the anti cfc campaigns in the eighties and nineties) but it is important that in doing so they stay within the law, or at least within the bounds of civilised and reasonable conduct, as to stray outside these only discredits the environmental movement as a whole and gives policy makers that much more ammunition to disregard all eco views as being extremist thus doing far more harm than good in the long run

I would echo your comments eeyore. I know how the warrior feels but you need to take moderate a approach to this otherwise the politicians and policy makers will just write you off.

Paul

[WildLife Warrior]

Eeyore you seem to miss the point...i never said i was planning to sink whaling ships....i mentioned in on purely a comment whim on the fact that you were automatically thinking that i was doing no more than a petition. Do you seriously think i have enough money to sail off to Antartica to do so.

I am doing more than a petition but it is hard to explain in terms you maY understand and not jump to conclusions with. I operate within the law but it doesn't mean i won't push boundaries...if nobody pushed boundaries there wouldn't be changes within the world.

What you need to do is stop just automatically assuming. I will be keeping people updated who sign this petition and since only two people from here have signed it...well it don't really matter does it....after all...im being too extreme aren't i.

Things need to change in the world and if we always keep backing down and never testing boundaries we are going to forever remain in a stagnant state that will never see any changes. I want to see changes so i will test boundaries to see where it gets me...new approaches need to be made if progress is to ever form....and for your information the part i mentioned about wanting to sink whaling ships...i think you will find that was actually one of Steve Irwins ideas....he always said to Terri that he would like to attach a giant can opener to the back of his research vessel Croc 1 and sail to Antartica and stop the Japanese....you going to turn round and say that he would have been out of order...that is not out of order to me...that is PASSION.

[eeyore]

Originally Posted by WildLife Warrior

Do you seriously think i have enough money to sail off to Antartica to do so.

no actually I dont - but if you are doing more than a petition then lets hear what , it cant be too hard to explain if you are going to keep everyone who signs your petition updated.

I would suspect that the reason only two people here have signed is not to do with your being extreme but more that most people may have signed the mainstream petitions already and are may be, like me, suspicious of your reluctance to explain what your campaign might involve.

Originally Posted by wildlife warrior

...about wanting to sink whaling ships...i think you will find that was actually one of Steve Irwins ideas....he always said to Terri that he would like to attach a giant can opener to the back of his research vessel Croc 1 and sail to Antartica and stop the Japanese....you going to turn round and say that he would have been out of order...that is not out of order to me...that is PASSION.

Actually I was going to say that he was joking - steve irwin was undoubtedly intelligent enough to realise that as soon as one whaler was sunk by eco activists sympathy for his cause would evaporate and he and his fellow travelers would be totally discredited and branded terrorists.


And talking of pushing the boundaries I do have an inovative idea which i am happy to hold forth on

Take some active sonar technology ( which ought to be readily available military surplus now that the cold war is over) , program it to the sonar pulse and frequency of a whale in distress (recordings available from the oceanographic institute at woods hole CA) , then team it with some longlife batteries and get a frog man to attach the units with a magnetic plate to the underneath of as many whalers as you can find. No whale in its right mind is going to come within miles of another one shouting that he is being mugged.

You find the funding and the skilled operatives to do this and you could be on to a real way to damage the whaling trade without breaking major laws or losing public sympathy.

course back in the real world it will never happen cos the money just aint there, but its a nice idea in theory.

[WildLife Warrior]

Ok Mr Cynical you want to know my plans...well here goes. I have the petition which is my back drop. This petition is currently running in 45 forums..not bad since i only started it just before Christmas. It is also running via email, myspace and facebook. Alongside that it is running on 32 petition sites acrss the world...ports of call include Canada, USA, UK, Australia, New Zealand and Japan...the latter being my main target and you know what...the Japanese are signing it so they must view it as wrong as well. When the Japanese petition has finished in the middle of the 2009 i plan to fly out to Japan and meet with a very close friend who has guaranteed that i can deliver the petition to the Japanese government officials in person..it's called having friends in high places.phase 1.Phase 2 will be to copy each and every petition and accompying letter and deliver them to every world leader.

Phase 3-To spend sme time in Japan teaching the children of the country about whale and animals conservation as a whole...as Steve Irwin says..conservation through exciting education...the children are the future and need to be taught how to be a wildlife warrior. This will mean travelling to as many schools as i can in the time i will have...and before you say anything i have already checked it out and i am allowed to do it.

Phase 4-Spending as much time up and down this country and in other countries educating and enlightening people about whaling and the need to protect these creatures. This will also involve visiting schools, nurseries, play schemes up and down the UK too and again before you say i can't do it...i can..i work with children so i have already found all the details out that neds to be found.

Phase 5-Get a huge protfolio of evidence together to support all my actions that will further incur. Then it will be magazine and newspaper targeting. For now i feel it is enough to let you know about the first 5 phases and leave the last 5 phases until the time has come. Midway through phase 3 i will be joining forces with the WildlLife Warriors campaign that Terri will be running so i will have more links.

You seem very adept that no-one would ever give funding to certain causes..well i have found that it is not the case. I have a gift of getting messages across and have some very high placed friends who i know will support me throughout the cause.

And you obviously don't know Steveo that well...the only reason..god bless him that he didn't attach that giant can opener and sink the whaling fleets is because Terri wouldn't let him..plus he had little Bindi at the time....if it had just been him he would have....his passion for WildLife was extraordinary...more than anyone on this planet and he always said he lived for wildlife and would die for wildlife. If he had done that his fans would have been behind him...well all except a few such as yourselves who clearly like to stick to the old methods....it appears that myself and you see things differently and this will not resolve but i will not back down..i know what i need to do and just one single person....and you are the only person in all forums, webpages, meeting webs and petitions that i have set up that has tried to back me down and make me feel like what i am doing will not work for love nor money but i tell you what...your just one...one person out of billions and it won't stop me or my passion.

[eeyore]

Okay - I'll go with that - I am slightly doubtful about the " present copies to every world leader" - because unless your freind is general secretary of the UN it seems unlikely that they can arrange that but other than that a good plan and one I will hapily support - I will sign up next time i access one of my email accounts.

As a matter of interest what did you think of my idea re active sonar ? - If you are as adept at getting funding for your cause as you claim could it really be done ?

The point you have missed is that i am not trying to back you down or to foil your plan - I merely wanted to know exactly what you had planned before I signed up to it and recomended freinds to do the same, and was troubled by your reluctance to reveal your plan - now that you have done so I am happy to give it my full backing.

If you need a photographer for your press and media targeting (at least within the uk) then please feel free to let me know - I am at the end of the day as commited to saving our cetacean buds as the next person and if i can help (within the law) then I will