RSPCA Campaign Against Badger Cull petition

[stripee]

Rather than put this link on the thread with the Government on line petition, I thought it better to start a new threat.
Here is petition to sign to go to Hilary Benn by the RSPCA.
RSPCA || Campaigns

[naturelover]

i have signed the petiton with pleasure.

[hedgehog whisperer]

Me too

[rainmaker]

Petition to: stop the cull of badgers in the UK and continue research into the real cause of Bovine TB.

You can also sign the 10 Downing St petition.

I'm deeply suspicious that these make NO difference whatsoever, but hey

[tigger]

I've signed this as well. Obviously a very serious issue, and one that isn't going to go away. The farmers I speak to don't believe in a cull but are scared stiff of bTB in their cattle.

[k9]

Have signed and passed on to friends who are all against this
Thanks for the link
k9

[muldonach]

Well I certainly won't be signing it! As far as I am concerned, if, and I stress the word if, Badgers are an infection source for cattle then the sooner we get on with the job the better.

A question:- it is I think an established fact that Badgers carry BTb - what is the effect on the Badgers - are they passive carriers or are they liable to eventually die of the disease?

I would suggest we drop the emotion and follow the science, once a scientific concensus is arrived at.

Regards
mac

[eeyore]

Originally Posted by muldonach

Well I certainly won't be signing it! As far as I am concerned, if, and I stress the word if, Badgers are an infection source for cattle then the sooner we get on with the job the better.

A question:- it is I think an established fact that Badgers carry BTb - what is the effect on the Badgers - are they passive carriers or are they liable to eventually die of the disease?

I would suggest we drop the emotion and follow the science, once a scientific concensus is arrived at.

Regards
mac

theres already a ten page thread on the Badger cull so i'm not going to rehash the whole argument here.

but in short i agree lets drop the emotion - on both sides of the argument - and follow the science, which overwhelmingly indicates that Badgers are not a primary source of btb in cattle (see the posts by "Brains" amongst others on the other thread for references etc.)

[Blackpatch]

I was very pleased to sign such a worthwhile petition and I cannot imagine such a cruel slaughter - we must stop this Murder Now!

[hunterswind]

I think that local cars are doing a great job but a few Badgers less would help all ground nesting birds ie pewits, larks, partridges etc

[Blackpatch]

How can you possibly advocate that one animal has to die to facilitate anothers life progress. Surely that is for nature to decide and not your stinking car drivers and their poxy mobile phones. Your some kind of JOKER!

[hobble]

Originally Posted by hunterswind

I think that local cars are doing a great job but a few Badgers less would help all ground nesting birds ie pewits, larks, partridges etc

I would not imagine the Badgers think like you, especially if they die painfully at the side of the road.
I certainly don't think cars are doing a great job.
Badgers are just carrying out their natural instincts, cars are man-made.

[hunterswind]

Rather have a cat sitting on my bird table as a Badger in a field of nesting Lapwings. Badgers are vermin protected but looked after on the quiet

[Blackpatch]

Badgers most certainly are not vermin as you put it - rats and mice are considered vermin. Badgers are our largest carnivores and while it is unfortunate that they sometimes eat ground nesting birds you have to say that that is a natural part of their diet.

However, I did hear of people in Spain treating Robins as a delicacy and actually eating them - this I find abhorent - to eat a songbird is a crime against nature and people who do so are so are no better than bottom feeders in a pond who know no better

[hunterswind]

Deer are our largest mammals but need to be culled to protect themselves likewise Badgers need to be culled as they are on the quiet all over the country.

[hobble]

Badgers are so quiet that most people I know have never seen one. I don't think we are over run with them, although maybe I am ignorant.
Hunterswind while we are on your subject of what you call vermin, how would you classify a Fox?

[stripee]

Originally Posted by hobble

Badgers are so quiet that most people I know have never seen one. I don't think we are over run with them, although maybe I am ignorant.

No, hobble, you are not ignorant. I spend nights trying to watch them, and sometimes don't see any at all, although they are there. They are one of the oldest inhabitants of the British Isles, here long before us lot came to wreck the place!

[galanthus]

Originally Posted by hunterswind

I think that local cars are doing a great job but a few Badgers less would help all ground nesting birds ie pewits, larks, partridges etc

Are you for real ??

[hunterswind]

yes I am real If you want to watch Badgers the best time is first light and be on a run within 200 yards of the set. I do realise they are a fluffy thing that lots of well meaning people like to see I personally would like a few thousands less !!!!!!!!

[hunterswind]

Maybe if people got out and spoke to people like myself they would learn a bit about modern country life etc go on adopt a gamekeeper today they are an endangered species

[stripee]

Originally Posted by hunterswind

yes I am real I do realise they are a fluffy thing that lots of well meaning people like to see I personally would like a few thousands less !!!!!!!!

They have stiff hairs. Also a powerful jaw and bite. Not particularly fluffy There is a long thread on WAB about this subject.

[galanthus]

Originally Posted by hunterswind

yes I am real If you want to watch Badgers the best time is first light and be on a run within 200 yards of the set. I do realise they are a fluffy thing that lots of well meaning people like to see I personally would like a few thousands less !!!!!!!!

Amazingly enough I do actually appreciate them for being fantastic and interesting British carnivores. Do you always stereotype nature-orientated people ?

[hunterswind]

The problem is the likes of Bill Oddie who knows very little about wildlife has made easy to film animals i.e Deer, Badgers and Foxes wildlife superstars. Now everyone with a telly thinks they are rare etc. I would love to challenge Bill Oddie and a friend vs. Myself and a friend to a televised competition on British wildlife knowledge the looser to donate £20,000 to the charity of the winners choice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[galanthus]

Originally Posted by hunterswind

The problem is the likes of Bill Oddie who knows very little about wildlife has made easy to film animals i.e Deer, Badgers and Foxes wildlife superstars. Now everyone with a telly thinks they are rare etc. I would love to challenge Bill Oddie and a friend vs. Myself and a friend to a televised competition on British wildlife knowledge the looser to donate £20,000 to the charity of the winners choice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can see modesty isn't your strong point then I appreciate anyone who can encourage people to look at wildlife and think about outside their living room. We all contribute something in different ways.

[hunterswind]

I would just love to get Bill Oddie and Simon King sweating without their backup. Dont you think it would be fun ? 2 country guys vs the top 2 BBC nature guys