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12-08-2009, 02:25 PM
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| | | The Glorious Twelth
Glorious unless you're a Red Grouse that is... or Ptarmigan, Snipe, Capercaillie or Black Game (whatever that is!).
Surely it is time to stop shooting Ptarmigan and Capercaillie at least until some way of improving the numbers is introduced. |
12-08-2009, 03:34 PM
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| | | Re: The Glorious Twelth
Capers are not shot in UK anymore, nor are Black Grouse due to declining populations, link:- Game Act 1831 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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12-08-2009, 09:02 PM
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This is probably a daft question, but do they breed Red Grouse in pens in the same way they do partridges & pheasants? I'm not anti grouse shooting, but I think their should be quotas in place. I'd also leek to see Woodcock a protected species. |
12-08-2009, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Stewart J  | Despite being the UK's most endangered bird, you could legally shoot capercailie in Scotland until 2001. With the current population (around 1500-2000) being on the very edge of extinction in this country, these belated efforts to protect them were perhaps a case of too little too late - when once there were around 20,000.
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13-08-2009, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FUDGEY This is probably a daft question, but do they breed Red Grouse in pens in the same way they do partridges & pheasants? I'm not anti grouse shooting, but I think their should be quotas in place. I'd also leek to see Woodcock a protected species. | Red Grouse cannot be bred in pens the males being very territorial.
Stewart |
23-12-2009, 10:06 AM
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| | | Re: The Glorious Twelth
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Originally Posted by FUDGEY This is probably a daft question, but do they breed Red Grouse in pens in the same way they do partridges & pheasants? I'm not anti grouse shooting, but I think their should be quotas in place. I'd also leek to see Woodcock a protected species. | why would you need quotas it is not in any estates interest to over shoot grouse as they are a truly wild bird if you over shoot all the breeding stock needed for the next years shoot would be gone! |
25-12-2009, 09:23 PM
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| | | Re: The Glorious Twelth
OK, I've drank a lot of vintage port today (It's Xmas dammit), but I'm a little confused with the status of the Capers (short for Capercaillie I presume).
In Stewart's post, he says Capers are not shot anymore, but then goes on to provide a Wikipedia link which seems to say they were hunted to extinction, but re-introduced after the Game Act 1831, so therefor are not protected under this act.
Larachmor says you could legally shoot them till 2001, so has a new Act been introduced in 2001 making it illegal to shoot 'Capers' ?
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25-12-2009, 10:12 PM
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The shooting of capers became illegal in 2001 at the same time all disused/ redundant deer fences where ordered to be removed.
Caper are now a red list species and it would appear the main cause of their recent failure to breed is human disturbance.
Hope this helps.
merry xmas Dan  |
25-12-2009, 10:42 PM
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Red grouse can be reared artificially, and are there is a rearing set up in shropshire. But it is not cost effective to rear them in this way to release them on shooting estates. Some years ago the chap that was breeding them came and gave quite a good informed talk.
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25-12-2009, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by danthekeeper The shooting of capers became illegal in 2001 at the same time all disused/ redundant deer fences where ordered to be removed.
Caper are now a red list species and it would appear the main cause of their recent failure to breed is human disturbance.
Hope this helps.
merry xmas Dan | Cheers Dan,
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