Dog Food Can Wood Burning Stove.

[foxy mars]

I got the Honey Stove, which is a pretty nifty thing. It is a stove that is is in 9 pieces, that is a base, middle & top plate along with 6 sides slotted into each other. You can used twigs, dry moss or tinder, failing that you can use a Trangia meths burner unit or even better a Trangia gas burner converter.

[SusieBee]

Hi Foxy, I saw some Trangias today in sale in Milletts, loads of camping equipment bargains this time of year!
Is your Honey Stove lightweight ish? Can't say I've seen one. Gotta try the Dog Food Can Wood Burning Stove though, I bet I'd mess it up!

Cheers

[richnfamous]

I suppose no stove at all - just a small fire - is the ultimate

Having said that, I'm getting one of these Honey stoves

The Honey Stove 09

as it looks like a really flexible solution. I'm getting a bit sick of lugging the Trangia around.

Another option is a stainless cutlery thingy (like a tin can with holes in the sides and bottom!) you can get at your local supermarket for a couple of quid. I've got a pal who swears by them.

[foxy mars]

Originally Posted by richnfamous

Having said that, I'm getting one of these Honey stoves

The Honey Stove 09

as it looks like a really flexible solution. I'm getting a bit sick of lugging the Trangia around.

I've got the Honey Stove and must say it's pretty good design and works very well in windy conditions and as a bonus, you can use the Trangia Gas Converter, which is made by Primus. It's a very powerful burner, so need to be careful not to have it too high. I find the meths is a bit slow burning for my needs.


SusieBee
The Honey Stove weighs 300gm and measures 5½" x 5½" and stores flat which will go into a army mess-tin no bother, the total weight inc. gas burner is 800gm. But if you use the Honey Stove with the 2 Trangia pans, pan holder and the meths burner inc, the meths. That weight is 700gm and you can't store the Honey Stove flat into the Trangia pans, so the army mess tins would be the best option for this solution.

You can minimize the Honey Stove for basic cooking to only 4 sides and using the Trangia burner unit, but you can't use the gas converter.

I have the Trangia 27UL c/w the kettle, lovely cooking system, but like richnfamous says, lugging around tends to be a pain, due to being bulky. But hey, again a superb cooking system that never failed.

[outdoors]

ma honey stove making a cuppa

[Jim Ford]

Originally Posted by foxy mars

I have the Trangia 27UL c/w the kettle, lovely cooking system, but like richnfamous says, lugging around tends to be a pain, due to being bulky. But hey, again a superb cooking system that never failed.

I bought a Trangia a few years ago and used it just the once before it went into the loft. I was horrified with its weight and bulk for one-person trecking - it dominated my rucksack! Meths is only really suitable for priming a liquid fuel stove. As the main fuel it's inefficient, heavy, difficult to control (in a Trangia) and stinks your rucksack out. It's also dangerous because the flame is nigh invisible in sunlight! The only thing to be said for a Trangia is that it's OK for group camping eg D. of E., because it's difficult to break.

I think that the only reason people use a Trangia is because they used one on their D. of E. and - don't know any better. It's also somewhat of a fashion camping accessory.

Jim

[foxy mars]

Originally Posted by Jim Ford

I bought a Trangia a few years ago and used it just the once before it went into the loft. I was horrified with its weight and bulk for one-person trekking- it dominated my rucksack! Meths is only really suitable for priming a liquid fuel stove. As the main fuel it's inefficient, heavy, difficult to control (in a Trangia) and stinks your rucksack out. It's also dangerous because the flame is nigh invisible in sunlight! The only thing to be said for a Trangia is that it's OK for group camping eg D. of E., because it's difficult to break.

I think that the only reason people use a Trangia is because they used one on their D. of E. and - don't know any better. It's also somewhat of a fashion camping accessory.

Jim, very true that the Trangia stove is a tad on the bulky side compared to some modern cooking stoves on the market. But, saying that the Trangia is very windproof, the 2 pans and maybe the kettle can nest quite happily inside the main housing, also the burner unit go's inside the kettle minus the meths which is kept in the dedicated Trangia fuel bottle. Also there is a frying pan, I have the non-stick version. So, really the Trangia is class on it's own. The beauty of it, is that nothing can break and is very robust. There is a Gas Converter which can replace the meths if needed, but that costs £45 alone, but you can control the heat and flame much much better than meths and gas is more readily available than meths.

I used to have the Trangia Mini stove and that was a little beauty in it's self.
It is difficult to control the flame, but there is a simmer plate to overcome this and depends what you may be cooking.

On my Coast to Coast walk in May, I used the MSR Pocket Rocket stove along with the MSR Titan Kettle. This is called one pot cooking, I would like to next time use the Trangia Mini stove, but prices have soared and will stick to my Trangia 27 UL. I have a 2 week cycle-camping tour next year and most likely to take the Trangia 27 for my cooking. The Trangia 27 will fit very nicely in the Ortlieb Front Roller Classic panner.

The Honey Stove 2009 is a nice stove, but tends to be a bit fiddly to set up, esp with cold fingers and one would need to have some dexerity. However, it would make a ideal week-end stove.

I don't think it's a fashion camping accessory, far from it. When I go the York Cycle Show which held is every June on the Knavemire, a lot of cyclist's camp on the racecourse and I guess roughly 15-25% of cyclist's used Trangia's, some of the Trangias were really battered and blackened due to consisted use over the years. I was talking a old time cycle tourist and swears by the Trangia and is not stuck on these modern stoves nowadays.

[Jim Ford]

Originally Posted by foxy mars

Also there is a frying pan, I have the non-stick version.

Yup, I've also got one - in the loft with the other Trangia stuff!

So, really the Trangia is class on it's own.

You're dead right - for weight, bulk and low efficiency!
;^)

On my Coast to Coast walk in May, I used the MSR Pocket Rocket stove

Another trecking fashion accessory! The Coleman 'F1 Lite' is lighter, cheaper and as efficient or more so than the 'Pocket Rocket'.

along with the MSR Titan Kettle. This is called one pot cooking

I also use the MSR Titan Kettle. I wish I'd hung on before buying one - the 'clones' are now much cheaper (eg the 'Alpkit' one). I _only_ do 'one pot cooking'!

I have a 2 week cycle-camping tour next year and most likely to take the Trangia 27 for my cooking. The Trangia 27 will fit very nicely in the Ortlieb Front Roller Classic panner.

I guess the Trangia is fine for a bicycle (or wheelbarrow!)

The Honey Stove 2009 is a nice stove

Seems overpriced to me!

I was talking a old time cycle tourist and swears by the Trangia and is not stuck on these modern stoves nowadays.

Some people still swear by the 100 year old Optimus/Primus 96!

I've got loads of stoves, ranging from a hexi fueled 'Esbit' up to the Army No. 12 stove that was part of the Scorpion tank equipment.

Jim

[freefeet]

I have a cider can meths stove. It weighs a whopping 17 grams.

But comparing it to my standard screw on portable gas stove for weight, the gas stove wins in the long run. If i take my gas stove and a full can of gas and the equivalent amount of meths to run the meths stove, the meths alone far outweighs the weight of the gas canister and stove.

It does depend on how much i want to use a stove as to which comes out on top.

For a few cups of tea the meths stove is excellent as i know exactly how much meths to take and can minimise on weight by doing so. With a gas stove i don't know exactly how much fuel i have and also have to carry the heavy canister and stove regardless.

Horses for courses!

[foxy mars]

Originally Posted by Jim Ford

I've got loads of stoves, ranging from a hexi fueled 'Esbit' up to the Army No. 12 stove that was part of the Scorpion tank equipment.

For the man who has every stove, but the Triangia let him down. How sad!