Can't find an ID section

[RoyW]

Originally Posted by RoyW

The numbers of Siberian Chiffchaff reported in the UK during the winter are low, perhaps 30-50 at most, which equates to about 1% of the Chiffchaffs wintering in the UK, perhaps less (hardly what I'd call a high proportion).

Whoops! There was meant to be a zero in that percentage, which should have read 10% (although that is taking the number of Siberian Chiffchaffs as 50, and the number of wintering Chiffchaffs at the lower end of the most recent national estimates of 500-1000, which date back to the BTO 1981-84 atlas, - so it is more than likely actually well under 10%).

[Dogghound]

Originally Posted by Pipit

It was taken at the old dry docks in Govan. South side of Glasgow.
They may well indeed stop in passing as few birds do that in the area like Reed Buntings and Goldcrests etc but don't stay. Due to only getting one photograph, I am just happy with a ChiffChaff record

>Thank you for your reply and the picture. It certainly is a Chiffchaff, and the picture is good enough to identify it as an Eastern race, probably P.c.tristis, commonly known as a Siberian Chiffchaff. Quite a high proportion of Chiffchaffs wintering in Britain belong to this race.

A good record!

Thanks,

Iain Gibson
Clyde Recorder
Scottish Ornithologists' Club<

It is not a tristis chiffchaff, I also find it hard to believe that this would be accepted on this photo and without a call and bird description.

This bird as Roy mentions has to much green/yellow on the underside and flanks.

This bird are very grey/brown ear coverts rather than the chocolate/warm brown of tristis.

The supercillium looks to yellow and looks to faded behind the eye.

The underwing looks to deep in colour.

I agree however that it is a good contender for abietinus.